96 Eclipse Gs-t Vs. 96 Prelude Vtech

[LXDSMXL]

WHO WOULD WIN OUT OF A 96 ECLIPSE GST TURBO AND A 96 PRELUDE VTECH, I SEARCH FOR 1/4 TIMES ON BOTH AND THEY BOTH COME IN AT LOW 15s, MY BROTHER INLAW WHO OWNS THE 96 ECLIPSE SAYS HE CAN BEAT A PRELUDE VTECH THEREFOR I'M HOPING THE PRELUDE WOULD TAKE IT, BEING A PRELUDE OWNER AND ALL (93 PRELUDE SI automatic)

[GritMaster]

Dead Stock?
I Think It'd prolly be one of those Drivers edge races.

I'm inclined to say the Eclipse... Really have no clue tho :P

[freakonaleash1187]

it would most likely be a drivers race.

[NISSANSPDR]

I think the Lude's didnt come out w/200HP til 97 so I gotta give the nod to the GS-T

[kman10587]

Well, the 93-96 Prelude VTEC made 190, and the 97-01 made 195. However, the 97-01 was significantly heavier. The fastest VTEC 'Ludes are generally the 95-96.

[Crippy]

definately a drivers race here , those gs-t's are slobs big time for a sport compact !! i would prolly tip my hat to the prelude tho , when it comes down to two cars , one boosted and the other N/A , making almost equal power to weight ratio's i always lean toward the one thats N/A

[integra818]

Stock for stock it'll be an even race, but eclipses have an unbelievable amount of potential for easy HP. For example, you can pull a vacuum hose here and plug something there and raise your boost for free and run well into the mid 14's for free.

Altough not impossible, you can make a prelude run 12's, but it's not as easy as making an eclipse run 12's.

[CBFryman]

Originally Posted by integra818

Stock for stock it'll be an even race, but eclipses have an unbelievable amount of potential for easy HP. For example, you can pull a vacuum hose here and plug something there and raise your boost for free and run well into the mid 14's for free.

Altough not impossible, you can make a prelude run 12's, but it's not as easy as making an eclipse run 12's.

you pull that vacum hose and you better be for retarding your timing about 2-3 degress for every 50-100 estimated HP.... or at least throw some premium gas in there...making a car the normally runs in what? the 16's? slaping 2 seconds off adds a good chunk of HP....though i am not a fan of honda i do know the H22a has major potential...even more so than that of the D and B series motors....im not as familure, however, with a turbo eclipse so i really cant call it on either one....but ill probably go with what alot of ppl have said...its all about the driver...

[Crippy]

OT, i dunno , b series motors have about the same , if not alot more potential than the H22

[CBFryman]

very true to a point....a stock cast iron B seires block is not adquite for more than 350HP where as the H22a block is much more sturdy though it is still cast iron and can probably reliably handle 400-450Hp...but hten agian im not a honda fenatic...this is just what i have gathered from every one i know loving hondas as i love RX-7's...the b-series block design how ever is strong enough when made from cast or forged aluminum to sustain 600HP....now thats amazing out ofa 4cyl with an 84mm bore.....

[integra818]

Originally Posted by CBFryman

you pull that vacum hose and you better be for retarding your timing about 2-3 degress for every 50-100 estimated HP.... or at least throw some premium gas in there......

Retarding the timing a certain 2-3 degrees for X amount of HP is a basic rule of thumb for NITROUS, I doubt the same applies for raising your boost on an Eclipse. Eclipse motors are at 215 HP, but they're more like 260 HP and choked down to 215.

B-series motors are'nt iron, Honda usually chooses aluminum for thier blocks.