-
Grand Future Air Dried Fresh Beef Dog Food
Air Dried Dog Food | Fresh Beef

Carnivore Diet for Dogs

Go Back   Automotive Forums Car Chat > Nissan > Pathfinder | Terrano | QX4 | Xterra | Patrol | Safari | X-Trail
Register FAQ Community
Pathfinder | Terrano | QX4 | Xterra | Patrol | Safari | X-Trail Nissans greatest 4WDs and SUVs
Reply Show Printable Version Show Printable Version | Subscription Subscribe to this Thread
 
Thread Tools
  #1  
Old 02-09-2002, 05:25 PM
scott.com scott.com is offline
AF Enthusiast
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Posts: 107
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Idler Arm

One of the guys in PNWX is talking about getting a CALMINI Idler Arm Brace. What is the fuction of the Idler Arm and why would one want to strenghten this area?

Is this something you would only do with a lifted X or could the problem also happen with a stock one?
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 02-09-2002, 06:56 PM
superjens's Avatar
superjens superjens is offline
AF Enthusiast
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Posts: 325
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Idler arm: A pivot point in a parallelogram steering system that follows the motions of the pitman arm. A worn idler arm bushing typically causes steering wander (looseness) and toe wear.

(I cheated, this comes from about.com or abooot.com as our US friends would have us say)

If you look at this pic, you can imagine the weak point under stress -- that is, at the very bottom there is not much support. The brace adds, um, some bracing at the bottom which hopefully will keep all those parts healthy and happy.

In the end it's because of running with bigger tires over bigger stuff than parking lot speed bumps.

__________________
superjens.com
I like saying aboot.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 02-09-2002, 06:58 PM
superjens's Avatar
superjens superjens is offline
AF Enthusiast
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Posts: 325
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Oh and I almost forgot, it comes in that pretty blue color which adds to the LCF.*


*LCF = Look Cool Factor
__________________
superjens.com
I like saying aboot.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 02-09-2002, 07:31 PM
rrdstarr's Avatar
rrdstarr rrdstarr is offline
AF Enthusiast
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Posts: 1,064
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
SuperJens

You could always get the black AC idler arm brace? Like me! Then you'd be cool!
__________________
We don't give a damn how loud your stereo is!
Did you read your owners manual yet?
V.P. of PNWX
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 02-10-2002, 12:44 PM
scott.com scott.com is offline
AF Enthusiast
Thread starter
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Posts: 107
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Quote:
Idler arm: A pivot point in a parallelogram steering system that follows the motions of the pitman arm. A worn idler arm bushing typically causes steering wander (looseness) and toe wear.


Could you repeat that. Well at least Ricks picture gives me a better idea as to where it's located. It sounds like it's good insurance and it comes it blue which is my favorite color .

Crap I'm going to be busy next weekend.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 02-10-2002, 04:38 PM
ozxterra's Avatar
ozxterra ozxterra is offline
AF Enthusiast
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Posts: 410
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rick - is it an easy install?
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 03-10-2002, 04:58 PM
migojoe migojoe is offline
AF Newbie
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Posts: 25
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I have an 02 X and am, for the most part very happy with it. I have noticed that when traveling on the highway above 55mph that the steering seems quite sloppy in the sense that there is a little more play than I am used to (last vehicle was a toyota tacoma). I'm curious if anyone else has noticed this and if anyone that has replaced the idle arm bracket mentioned has noticed any added stability in the steering department.

Thanks

migojoe
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 03-10-2002, 05:17 PM
rrdstarr's Avatar
rrdstarr rrdstarr is offline
AF Enthusiast
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Posts: 1,064
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Easy install!

Chad! Sorry I let this lapse a whole month! The Ac brace was easy to stall and only took two bolts plus the nut on the idler arm bolt. The AC brace bolts over the idler arm. Jens's CalMini brace required to remove all the bolts and it was laced under the Idler arm brace. We installed his EOE Stering stabilizer at the same time so it was pretty straight forward. Idon't know if you need an alignment afterward, but it might be necessary with the Calmini because you are moving it a 1/4" from where it origiannly was.

On a side note...I installed the SLR idler arm brace yesterday. It hits the AC bracket so I had to modify the two of them together. I 'll get pics tonight. The SLR brace clamps to the idler arm it self. I don't think SLR sells it anymore? It's not on their website.

migojoe to answer your question..the brace is to support the steering system from taking any hard jolts and breaking when off roading. Sounds like you may want to talk to your dealer about your "slop".
__________________
We don't give a damn how loud your stereo is!
Did you read your owners manual yet?
V.P. of PNWX
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 03-10-2002, 06:34 PM
FSRBIKER's Avatar
FSRBIKER FSRBIKER is offline
AF Enthusiast
 
Join Date: May 2001
Posts: 215
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Personally I like the Moog idler arm better than adding a brace, it's much beefier in it's design...my Nissan idler arm bent so the AC/Calmini brace would not have helped, not sure if the SLR one would have though.
__________________
Todd AKA FSRBIKER
EOE
www.Extreme4x4Parts.com
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 03-10-2002, 07:15 PM
rrdstarr's Avatar
rrdstarr rrdstarr is offline
AF Enthusiast
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Posts: 1,064
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
SLR/AC working together

Hopefully you can see where i ground on the two of them? Wish I knew how to add an arrow?
__________________
We don't give a damn how loud your stereo is!
Did you read your owners manual yet?
V.P. of PNWX
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 03-10-2002, 08:30 PM
xoc's Avatar
xoc xoc is offline
AF Enthusiast
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Posts: 315
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Here you go... Rick, download this and replace yours, and I'll remove this one.

__________________
Regards,
Ian
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 03-10-2002, 10:11 PM
rrdstarr's Avatar
rrdstarr rrdstarr is offline
AF Enthusiast
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Posts: 1,064
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Thanks Ian/XOC

Thanks Ian/XOC! If I tried that I'd probably screw it up!!! Appreciate your help and that it might help others!
__________________
We don't give a damn how loud your stereo is!
Did you read your owners manual yet?
V.P. of PNWX
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 03-11-2002, 09:31 AM
wqbang's Avatar
wqbang wqbang is offline
AF Enthusiast
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
Posts: 350
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Send a message via Yahoo to wqbang
Quote:
Originally posted by migojoe
I have an 02 X and am, for the most part very happy with it. I have noticed that when traveling on the highway above 55mph that the steering seems quite sloppy in the sense that there is a little more play than I am used to (last vehicle was a toyota tacoma).
The Xterra uses a recirculating ball type steering setup while I believe the Tacoma uses a rack and pinion setup. The recirculating ball system is not quite as responsive.

In this scenario the idler arm brace will not help you. If you wheel your Xterra, than you may want to consider one since it will strengthen the idler arm, a notoriously weak part of the nissan steering system.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 03-11-2002, 03:06 PM
aero_steve aero_steve is offline
AF Newbie
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Posts: 25
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Re: Easy install!

Quote:
Originally posted by rrdstarr
I don't know if you need an alignment afterward, but it might be necessary with the Calmini because you are moving it a 1/4" from where it origiannly was.
After I installed the Calmini brace I noticed my steering wheel is slightly offcenter, but the truck tracks straight on flat ground and doesn't pull to either side. I'm installing the SLR Stage III lift in the next couple weeks and will have the alignment done after that.
__________________
HXOC Member - If the afterlife is so wonderful, why do you wear a seatbelt?
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 03-11-2002, 03:30 PM
ozxterra's Avatar
ozxterra ozxterra is offline
AF Enthusiast
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Posts: 410
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rick - thanks for the info. I will probably enlist the indomitable SuperJens to help me out with slapping one on my green machine. My mod-money has been going into the "WRX fund" as of late.


Cheers
Reply With Quote
 
Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Another BALL JOINTS/IDLER ARM/PITMAN ARM JoshBarber Blazer 15 05-06-2011 09:05 PM
Pitman arm/Idler arm replacement "98 sonoma my72phins Sonoma | S-15 5 06-27-2010 09:17 PM
How to Replace pitman arm/idler arm sirul Jimmy 10 11-01-2009 08:33 PM
Idler Arm and Pitman Arm Decoy2 Suburban 2 02-22-2006 07:20 AM
Pitman Arm and Idler Arm winsett Silverado 5 01-12-2006 03:43 AM

Reply

POST REPLY TO THIS THREAD

Go Back   Automotive Forums Car Chat > Nissan > Pathfinder | Terrano | QX4 | Xterra | Patrol | Safari | X-Trail


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:12 AM.

Community Participation Guidelines | How to use your User Control Panel

Powered by: vBulletin | Copyright Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
 
 
no new posts