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#1
09-05-2004, 10:55 PM
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Help! Confused about 3sx downpipe and stillen race pipe
Ok, I've been to this page:
http://www.stillen.com/Sportscars_de...id=4024&page=1 and this page: http://www.3sxperformance.com/exhaust-tt.asp What confuses me, is that stillen calls it a "race pipe" and 3sx calls it a "down pipe" and then you can buy a "race pipe" to go along with it. My question is this: If I buy a stillen race pipe, then I don't need a 3sx downpipe correct? Also, I wouldn't need the 3sx race pip either because it looks like the stillen race pipe is the 3sx downpipe + race pipe together. Am I right? Wrong? Help ?
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#2
09-06-2004, 12:12 PM
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The Stillen downpipe is actually a downpipe + a race pipe (aka test pipe). The "race pipe" is a straight through pipe that replaces the catylitic converter. If you were to get the Stillen version, no you would not need a "race pipe," however if you were to buy the 3sx downpipe, you would still need a race pipe.
Below is a picture of the stock downpipe + catylitic converter compared against the Stillen downpipe. As you can see, the Stillen downpipe includes a section that replaces the cat, so you would not need a race pipe.  good luck.
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93 3000GT base K&N | long tube headers | 3sx crank pulley| testpipe | Addco front/rear sway bars (3SX) | rear strut bar & front 3-point strut bar (by JonVr4 on 3Si) | solid motor mounts | LSD insert | KYB GR-2 struts | intrax springs | adj. control arms | ss brake lines | 16% taller 5th gear (teamrip.com) | H4 conversion | push-button start | datalogger | HKS S-AFR | PLX WB O2 coming soon: adj. cam gears | bi-xenon HID retrofit
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#3
09-06-2004, 02:45 PM
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Hrmm sounds like a sweet deal except it'd be harder to swap in the stock one every two years when they test for emissions here in Massachusetts.
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1995 3000GT VR-4 Installed: ESP front precat eliminating downpipe, test pipe, RF-1008 K&N, Dejon tool Y pipe, 1G DSM BOV, MSD wires, Guted rear pre cat, ISSPRO EV Marine boost gauge, IPO MBC, EGR blockoffs, Palm m515 dataloger setup, NGK iridium plugs, SPEC stage II clutch 500ft/lb, 5300k HID plug and play setup. Soon:Topline Engineering ground wires.
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#4
09-06-2004, 05:45 PM
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Ya, it might not be quick and easy to swap the stock dp+cat back in, but again, its once every TWO years! i think you wouldn't mind that inconvenience once every 730 days.
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93 3000GT base K&N | long tube headers | 3sx crank pulley| testpipe | Addco front/rear sway bars (3SX) | rear strut bar & front 3-point strut bar (by JonVr4 on 3Si) | solid motor mounts | LSD insert | KYB GR-2 struts | intrax springs | adj. control arms | ss brake lines | 16% taller 5th gear (teamrip.com) | H4 conversion | push-button start | datalogger | HKS S-AFR | PLX WB O2 coming soon: adj. cam gears | bi-xenon HID retrofit
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#5
09-06-2004, 06:47 PM
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Yea I guess, but isn't it hard to attach the downpipe? ..... Ohh wait I'm thinking of headers/exhaust manafolds, the down pipe is easy to bolt on/off right?
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1995 3000GT VR-4 Installed: ESP front precat eliminating downpipe, test pipe, RF-1008 K&N, Dejon tool Y pipe, 1G DSM BOV, MSD wires, Guted rear pre cat, ISSPRO EV Marine boost gauge, IPO MBC, EGR blockoffs, Palm m515 dataloger setup, NGK iridium plugs, SPEC stage II clutch 500ft/lb, 5300k HID plug and play setup. Soon:Topline Engineering ground wires.
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09-06-2004, 07:50 PM
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Re: Help! Confused about 3sx downpipe and stillen race pipe
Yeah, for those long aftermarket downpipes like Stillen and ATR, just cut them down, get a highflow cat and bolt that on. 3sx actually sells them in combos, if you are subject to emissions.
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96 3000gt vr4 -K&N FIPK -Proboost mbc -Cusco front + rear strut bars -Greddy type-s -ATR downpipe -no cats -15Gs, 3sx aluminum pulley, FMIC, SAFC, walboro pump, EVO 560ccs, and Meth Injection Kit all waiting to go in shortly. Your 1996 Mitsubishi 3000GT VR-4 is the 92nd out of the 315 that were made that year. Only 21 of which are exactly identical.
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#7
09-06-2004, 08:05 PM
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Re: Help! Confused about 3sx downpipe and stillen race pipe
I don't have emissions testing, so I think I'll get the stillen race pipe.
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'92 3000GT VR4 Current Mods: K&N FIPK RPS Streetmax clutch Rebuilt tranny Free Boost Mod Maximal Performance Solid Motor Mounts Pictures and Videos of my car Got a question about your auto insurance? I'm an insurance agent, ask away.
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09-06-2004, 08:24 PM
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Re: Help! Confused about 3sx downpipe and stillen race pipe
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96 3000gt vr4 -K&N FIPK -Proboost mbc -Cusco front + rear strut bars -Greddy type-s -ATR downpipe -no cats -15Gs, 3sx aluminum pulley, FMIC, SAFC, walboro pump, EVO 560ccs, and Meth Injection Kit all waiting to go in shortly. Your 1996 Mitsubishi 3000GT VR-4 is the 92nd out of the 315 that were made that year. Only 21 of which are exactly identical.
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