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Old 09-01-2004, 07:32 PM
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engine swap for eclipse ?

I've noticed that many eclipes break down, is it cause of the engine or the transmission? I heard it was both. Anyways i saw this incredible deal of a 97 eclipse rs fwd on sale for $3,800 and i really want to buy it but knowing that I'll have problems with the engine sometime in the future i want to ready myself with an engine swap.

I got hook ups on the engine but i only plan to spend 3,000 (labor) on the swap. so i want an engine without major modification but i want it over the 200hp range. the prelude h22 ? the supra 2jz ? or even the evo engine .. can i have more information on which one of these would be a good swap for a low price?
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Old 09-01-2004, 07:42 PM
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Re: engine swap for eclipse ?

the 4g63 is the evo engien. i guess you could drop a h22 or 2jz, but their is no way to keep the cost of fabrication under 3000, unless your a guru. buy the eclipse rs if you like it, and drop in a 6 bolt 1g 4g63 and go from there. good for upto 400 hp on stock interals.
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Old 09-01-2004, 08:41 PM
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Re: engine swap for eclipse ?

i heard somewhere in this forum you could get 500 hp out of the stock internals on the 4g63
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Old 09-01-2004, 09:36 PM
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Re: engine swap for eclipse ?

well if you have 3,800 for the car and 3,000 more. thats 6,800, you can buy a decent gst or gsx that already come with the 4g63 and boosted. better deal. probably less than that. i seen some for 5,000. good luck.
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Old 09-01-2004, 09:47 PM
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But he is saying he wants a new engine so it wont break down. So if you bought the gsx it would still be used and mid~high mileage.
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Re: engine swap for eclipse ?

u cant just drop any engine you want into a car. you cant even drop the 4g63 into the rs without going through all kinds of shit. check out the thread on top of this page for the details
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Re: engine swap for eclipse ?

yeah but hes saying he has the mula i guess.. i dunno but if i ever get rich.. im so dropping a 4g63 into my gs.. i dunt car what it cost or if it waste money i wanna do it just because everyone says not too lmao haha peace
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Re: engine swap for eclipse ?

you can find a cheap 95 turbo talon or eclipse and have enough money for a 1g4g63. its up to you. or you can always get the turbo 1g model.
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there is only one person i know of who's ever put a 4g63 in the 2nd generation rs or gs. i don't know his name or where's currently located, but i do remember him saying he spent over $5000 on the entire deal and that he'd had a shop do all the work and in teh end he had a car that was no faster than a 95-99 gst which can be bought for $6000-7000 in good shape. hell you could get a $6000 95 gst, swap in the 6 bolt for another $1000 yourself, add dsmlink for another $800 and never have to touch the motor or your tuning apparatus ever again.
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Old 09-02-2004, 06:56 PM
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what about a 93 supra 2jze engine ? will it fit? can it be done for under 2 grand?
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Re: engine swap for eclipse ?

You are on the wrong path. Do not buy a RS/GS/ESi if you want a turbo car. Save your money for a GST/GSX/TSI or don't even try.

You cannot pioneer an engine swap on a budget. Don't waste your time looking into it, it will cost $8,000 to put a supra motor in your car.
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Old 09-02-2004, 07:04 PM
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I dont know that much about Mitsubishis or Eclipses, but wont a 6cyl from a mitsu FTO fit right in? They have the same chassis.
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Old 09-02-2004, 07:06 PM
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im not looking for turbo .. im looking for something reliable that will last another 100,000 miles and still be pretty strong .. 200 hp is desired .. as for the 8 grand .. is that grand for the motor and the labor ? cause im just asking if itll be under 2 - 4 grand for the labor costs .. i can get the engine for cheap

ey thanks for all your help though ... cause of all your replies im thinking of just buying a supra but id like a tad bit more input on this =]
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Re: engine swap for eclipse ?

You won't hit 200hp at the wheels on a non-turbo car without spending more than it would cost to get the gst.

I made 8k up. A 4g63 swap has apparently costed 5-6k, and a supra would be harder. Don't do it. Better yet, do it, then tell me how much it cost.
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Old 09-02-2004, 07:27 PM
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haha =]

i plan to put turbo in it and exhaust and manifold whatever and paint it green put carbon fibor hood on it go to dodger stadium find out i top out at 160 so i buy NOOOOOOOS so that i could race one race to determine that im faster then the god of racer tureto =D

jaykay jay kay

and thats the end of that =]

thanks for all your help .. i guess ill be postin my next questions later =]
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