Any Teams Out There?

[Takumi_ae86]

I just moved to Rohnert Park and i just recently put together a initial d racing team called Project D It consists of a, Toyota Trueno with over 2,000,000 points (me), a FD with 1,250,000 points, a FC with 1,120,000 points, and a Subaru Impreza WRX Type R with over 2,500,000 points. We cover all aspects of the game and we havent been beaten in a long time and are hoping to get a tournament going in san francisco at the metreon for any teams or loners who can get their. If you are interested email me at [email protected] were debating on playing for money or just to kick some ass if your interested get some teams together and email me. Or post your team name here and your cars, with their points.





*Drive It Like You Stole It* Later.

[duluth2006]

with those cars you better work on your team a lot more.

[Takumi_ae86]

Me and you both know that the cars dont matter its the skill of the driver and if you knew that, i wouldnt have to work on my team at all.

[kman10587]

a. It's the skill of the driver.
b. All of those cars are pretty near the top, except the FC3S, but it's still a beast on Akagi and not bad on Akina.
c. duluth2006, what kind of times do you run? You seem to talk down to a lot of people on this forum...are you really good at the game or something?

[duluth2006]

a.) no its fucking not the skill of the driver, of course that is a factor, levin versus skyline on myogi, who wins? SKYLINE levin can't do SHIT about it. if it was the skill of the driver that mattered why can't underpowered cars own the time attacks and own in battles? they can't if the two same people have the same amount of skill and one is driving a home course car and one is driving an underpowered car, underpowered car would obviously lose.
b. all the cars are NOT near the top. goto initiald.org, they have rankings for each car dry, wet, and snow. so obviously all cars are not NEAR the top. the wrx is good for rain and the trueno is basically only good for akina. the fc only has one advantage over the silvia on akagi, ITS MORE STABLE.
c. i do not talk down on others, i simply inform them. and i'm not gonna say i'm GOOD at the game 'cause good is being able to get a 2'39 on tsuchi a 3'20 in the snow, etc.. etc.. i'm not godly but i am decent.

[kman10587]

a. Myogi is basically a top speed war, so of course the Skyline is going to win in that match-up. If you're talking about a more technical track like Akina, however, a highly experienced driver in an 86 Levin will beat a noob in an 86 Trueno. Driver skill is the PRIMARY factor in deciding who will win a race. Now, if both drivers are equal in skill, then yes, it will come down to the car.
b. I visit www.initiald.org all the time, and all of those cars except for the FC and ranked in the top 10. They have some strong courses and some weak courses, but they are good cars overall. Besides, it wouldn't matter even if they weren't, since the team name/theme is Project D and those are the cars that are associated with it.
c. I was just wondering what kind of times you run, since you seem to be an Initial D: Arcade Stage expert. Next time I go to the arcade, I'm gonna get I.R. passwords so that I can post my times.

[tEaM_oMeGa]

Originally Posted by duluth2006

a.) no its fucking not the skill of the driver, of course that is a factor, levin versus skyline on myogi, who wins? SKYLINE levin can't do SHIT about it. if it was the skill of the driver that mattered why can't underpowered cars own the time attacks and own in battles? they can't if the two same people have the same amount of skill and one is driving a home course car and one is driving an underpowered car, underpowered car would obviously lose.
b. all the cars are NOT near the top. goto initiald.org, they have rankings for each car dry, wet, and snow. so obviously all cars are not NEAR the top. the wrx is good for rain and the trueno is basically only good for akina. the fc only has one advantage over the silvia on akagi, ITS MORE STABLE.
c. i do not talk down on others, i simply inform them. and i'm not gonna say i'm GOOD at the game 'cause good is being able to get a 2'39 on tsuchi a 3'20 in the snow, etc.. etc.. i'm not godly but i am decent.

ok, of course the skyline will win on myogi...but what about if two cars (r34 & levin) goes to a stage where they are eventually equal in skills and is a fair match...like akina...who will win??? Now this comes to the skills...since the r34 can't turn for shit..and the levin dont have the pick up...who will win???

[tEaM_oMeGa]

Originally Posted by kman10587

a. Myogi is basically a top speed war, so of course the Skyline is going to win in that match-up. If you're talking about a more technical track like Akina, however, a highly experienced driver in an 86 Levin will beat a noob in an 86 Trueno. Driver skill is the PRIMARY factor in deciding who will win a race. Now, if both drivers are equal in skill, then yes, it will come down to the car.
b. I visit www.initiald.org all the time, and all of those cars except for the FC and ranked in the top 10. They have some strong courses and some weak courses, but they are good cars overall. Besides, it wouldn't matter even if they weren't, since the team name/theme is Project D and those are the cars that are associated with it.
c. I was just wondering what kind of times you run, since you seem to be an Initial D: Arcade Stage expert. Next time I go to the arcade, I'm gonna get I.R. passwords so that I can post my times.

yes i agree with you too....i wonder what kind of time is he running....i need proof of his times not just words.....

[duluth2006]

ok i'm not gonna even bother replying to omega 'cause he's just basically saying everything you are like an echo.

a.) that is true in some aspects. let's take my view though, initial-d is obviously not only about battle.. the time attack aspect is a pretty big part of the game correct? yes, what i'm saying is that there is no way x car (being home course car) vs. y car (being an underpowered car) can even AMOUNT to the times that x car can. meaning that skill isn't needed to have good times with the x-car and with y-car you'd have to be VERY good to amount to basic times with the x-car, correct? i was just using skyline vs. the levin for an example of how much skill can come into play for a good time with y car.
2.) yes those cars are rated good but they suck in battle and also really don't overpower any stage. most teams raise the best cars so they'd have trouble racing other teams. it was suggestive help 'cause most of the teams they will be facing will not give them the same pleasure of racing for fun, but as like team omega does, keeps asking for a challenge to see "who's the best". i said with those cars you better work on your team some more, plus their racing for money? i posted that 'cause he's getting himself into something that could screw him over.
c. like i said, my times aren't the best but i do research initial-d and i know a few people who i consider to be experts at the game. although anyone can be good at this game if they play it all the time.

[kman10587]

a. Well, at the arcade I go to, there are a lot of people who use Evo IV's on Irohazaka and Tsuchizaka, and I can beat their times by about 5 seconds in my Celica GT-Four, because they don't know to drive properly. You're right, a better car on a course will inevitably run a faster time on that course, but it still might not be a very fast time.
b. The GC8V and FD3S do not suck in battle. They may not have very many (if any) king courses, but they are both top 10 in nearly every course in the game, so they don't have many weaknesses either, meaning they will have a decent shot even at home course cars on their home course.
c. I'm not trying to make a personal attack at all, I was just curious. Sorry.

[duluth2006]

a.) 5 seconds doesn't seem right. they must be noobs, or they play the game but still play like its their first time. i mean come on, are you proud of beating someone who doesn't even know that downshifting or braking gives you a better turning radius? when i was talking about skill doesn't matter when its a x-car against y-car my point is a person who drives x-car and knows the basics (line and speed balance) against the y-car (very skilled player runs VERY fast times but with an underpowered car) could NEVER amount to the times of x-car. so that's what i mean by skill not playing a factor. i mean you can't MAKE any car run the fastest times in the world.

b.) well defined by what standard do they suck in battle? an decent player with an rx-8 or gdb could murder those cars. we all know the most important factor in battling is the start-up. you NEVER pass on the outside and to pass on a straight away your opponent had to of fucked up REALLY bad and even if you have the right speed to pass, doesn't really mean you are gonna pass. i won't disagree with them being good all around cars.. i'm just saying battle wise, all around cars doesn't mean shit.

c.) yes i'm not offended. but after dealing with the "team_omega" its gets annoying. just 'cause you have faster times doesn't really mean i'm wrong, now does it? like i said before, ANYBODY can be good at this time who puts money + time into it. if you look in my older threads some guy did have faster times than them but they just blew it off. i mean i know what i'm saying is correct and i'm just trying to help spread the knowledge. in no way am i trying to say i'm a god at this game, i'm trying to HELP others. i'm not trying to challenge others or say i'm better than others.

[kman10587]

a. I'm not proud of it, I'm just saying that a good car means nothing if you can't use it properly. We're kinda beating a dead horse here.

b. Blocking/passing is an important part of battle, but you can't always rely on it, especially on wider tracks like Akagi and Akina. In fact, taking an RX-8 to Akina, especially Akina Snow, is usually a very bad match-up for them (especially if you're in a GC8V). The GDB is a little more balanced, but it still won't stand up to the GC8V on almost any course.

c. Knowing the facts and knowing how to apply them are two different things. You can say all you want what's important in the game, but if you can't do it yourself then you saying it doesn't mean much...

[duluth2006]

a.) not really, the people you are talking about are like i said noobs or play but act like its still their first time playing. i was talking about people who know the basics using home course cars versus people who are very skillful using an underpowered car couldn't amount to the home course cars times. which is true... figuring out how a car handles doesn't take that long to get used too, i mean in the sense that nothing is like the ea11r from version 2.

b. that is somewhat true, but same for the otherway around... you can't count on passing. i mean its obvious that it takes a lot more speed to pass on the outside so assuming the person ahead takes the inner most line, even if it is at a slower speed than the other car (which i might add shouldn't be that hard to take the inner line) he shouldn't be able to pass. actually the rx8 is more balanced than the gdb in the sense that in the rain the gdb sucks the reason why people play the gdb is 'cause it has a faster start-up than the rx8 thus it has a pretty good chance at beating it. also what are you talking about the gdb won't stand up to the gc8v? the gc8v isn't THAT great, i mean technically the rx8 is rated better than that + it has a greater start up. not to mention the gdb doesn't have exactly the best turning but it does have a fast start up, like i stated before thats one of the most important factors in battle. time attack of course IS different, but if we are talking about battle and the gdb or rx8 KNOWS how to block and take an inner line (WHICH ISN'T THAT HARD) he shouldn't have any trouble winning.

c. no, you missed my point. i APPLY everything i learn i just don't have arcade close enough to me to go down there every time i damn well please, unlike the lot of ya... so refining the techinques is harder.

[tEaM_oMeGa]

who would want to take a underpowered car to your home course that is completely boring...of course the home course car will win....im talking about no home courses for any car....that's a decent battle right there...cause taking any underpower car to your car's home course is like a handicap....myogi is like a high speed track...skyline top out at 206 -207+has the launch...levin tops out at 201-202+slow start up, skyline would obviously win....ok taking about home courses, shomaru outbound....cap vs. gdb...same equal skills...who wins gdb cause u just need to block all the way....gdb launch first....big back to block

[duluth2006]

uh, believe it or not it happens and a lot of people take advantage of weaker cars by taking them to a home course stage or a stage where they have a disadvantage. also, you missed the whole point of a my myogi explanation which later, if you read my posts, explains what i meant. your shomaru example. doesn't work. if it was time attack the GDB couldn't TOUCH the capp's times even if he was the best player in the world (which was my re-defined answer of levin versus skyline on myogi). also, i said that in battle, which we all know START-UP MATTERS hence the blocking system has changed drastically with "no barrier" which also helped emphasize my "cars matter" 'cause you use different cars for battle (start-up) while as for time attack you use home course cars. sheeesh, did you read anything i said in this thread?