Remote starter for 2004 Accord EX V6?

[shahhe]

Folks,

I just bought Accord V6 EX with NAV. I am looking for a remote engine starter for the car and preferably use the remote on the car key.

Where can I find one and is there a good installer around western suburbs of Chicago.

Thanks.

[lorunner]

let me ask you this. you bought a car that is equiped with an immobilizer system that keeps theifs from steeling your car. now you want to install a remote start which in most cases an extra key is needed and is stored under the column covers so that the car will start. now all a thief has to do is break the ign. lock and the car is there's. just something to think about.

[ponchonutty]

Originally Posted by shahhe

Folks,

I just bought Accord V6 EX with NAV. I am looking for a remote engine starter for the car and preferably use the remote on the car key.

Where can I find one and is there a good installer around western suburbs of Chicago.

Thanks.

Ah, don't worry about what he says. There are 2 options in doing your remote start bypass. One is using something like DEI part# 556u. It will house a coded key inside a box with an antenna ring that goes up into the cyl. lock. It only works when you remote start it. When I do this, I use an uncut key inside the box(yes, I can program uncut keys to vehicles). So that way if someone has enough time to tear open your dash and actually knows what they are looking for they still can't drive away.

The other method is to use something like this. http://www.transponderbypass.com/pkh3.asp?cid=13
It doesn't require any key. That way you should be completely rest assured.

Now as far as good remote starters? I love DEI alarms and starters. You can look up a local dealer at http://directed.com/contact/locator.asp

Just put in your zip code in the boxes. If you find a Sidewinder or Python alarm shop they might be a little less expensive than a Viper or Clifford. If you really want to use your fact. keyless then you will want a 561t http://directed.com/security/valet/val_rs.asp#561T I will warn you that your range will be limited to what your keyless can do. I suggest something like the Python 1200xp or 1400xp. That way you can get up to a 1/4 mile range. If you go for the transponder remotes, it is even farther! http://directed.com/security/python/pyth_responder.asp They have a newer one out that uses remotes with LED lights instead of the screens. It is much cheaper AND more durable too!

Hope this helps

[lorunner]

Originally Posted by ponchonutty

Ah, don't worry about what he says. There are 2 options in doing your remote start bypass. One is using something like DEI part# 556u. It will house a coded key inside a box with an antenna ring that goes up into the cyl. lock. It only works when you remote start it. When I do this, I use an uncut key inside the box(yes, I can program uncut keys to vehicles). So that way if someone has enough time to tear open your dash and actually knows what they are looking for they still can't drive away.

The other method is to use something like this. http://www.transponderbypass.com/pkh3.asp?cid=13
It doesn't require any key. That way you should be completely rest assured.

Now as far as good remote starters? I love DEI alarms and starters. You can look up a local dealer at http://directed.com/contact/locator.asp

Just put in your zip code in the boxes. If you find a Sidewinder or Python alarm shop they might be a little less expensive than a Viper or Clifford. If you really want to use your fact. keyless then you will want a 561t http://directed.com/security/valet/val_rs.asp#561T I will warn you that your range will be limited to what your keyless can do. I suggest something like the Python 1200xp or 1400xp. That way you can get up to a 1/4 mile range. If you go for the transponder remotes, it is even farther! http://directed.com/security/python/pyth_responder.asp They have a newer one out that uses remotes with LED lights instead of the screens. It is much cheaper AND more durable too!

Hope this helps

Actualy you are wrong. the coaded key even though it isnt kut just has to be here the immobilizer ring on the ignition to work. basically if someone jams a screw driver in the ignition and breaks the lock they can take that uncut coded key and hold it here or on the ring and the immobilizer will pick up the signal. If you dont believe me you can take a cut cey thet isnt coded and your uncut key that is coded and hold the two together and try to start the car and it will. This was addressed by honda themself's to let the techs know that if they had a car with a computer problem that they could in turn pull an ECU from another vehicle and plug it in and piggy back the two keys to start the car.

[ponchonutty]

Originally Posted by lorunner

Actualy you are wrong. the coaded key even though it isnt kut just has to be here the immobilizer ring on the ignition to work. basically if someone jams a screw driver in the ignition and breaks the lock they can take that uncut coded key and hold it here or on the ring and the immobilizer will pick up the signal. If you dont believe me you can take a cut cey thet isnt coded and your uncut key that is coded and hold the two together and try to start the car and it will. This was addressed by honda themself's to let the techs know that if they had a car with a computer problem that they could in turn pull an ECU from another vehicle and plug it in and piggy back the two keys to start the car.

You're sorta right. First thing is this, if someone wants something bad enough, they'll get it. There is no exception to this rule. Like I said before, these Hondas are still being stolen reguardless if there is a remote starter installed.

As for "holding a key" then using a screwdriver to break the lock theory sounds viable. The only problem is how these ignition systems are now designed. They are simular to that of GM's Passkey lines which makes them almost impossible to do what you are saying without damaging the transponder. On say a new Trailblazer, you don't even need a special coded key. The code is in the cyl. lock itself. That being said sure sounds like if you break the ignition switch you should be able to start the car right? Well, no. The whole thing is so delicately put together that it basically self destructs when this is attempted. Also, these systems are getting so finicky that you run the chance if it not working even if you are able to break the lock without damaging anything else. The reason is from the metal of the screwdriver interfering with the coded key that you have to know where it is hidden and also how to get it out. Also, that's why I have to use the "keysense" wire if using a bypass that uses coded keys. That way when you have it remote started and insert your regular key, it will quit transmitting the code from the other key.

Then about the Honda techs piggy backing keys when swapping ECUs also sounds like something that would work. The only problem is the ECUs are set up to lock you out if it reads 2 keys at the same time even if BOTH keys have been taught. So, unless you carefully take apart the ignition switch so the trandsponder ring is away from the switch itself(so it won't read the original key), it just won't happen. Besides, since they have the ECUs in hand along with their OBD scanner, they can simply teach as many keys as they want too. Why would they waste time "piggy backing" keys?

Please, I don't mean to call you out on this. It's just that I have been in this bizz for too many years now. I know just about all there is to know about these systems. Heck, I talk to one of the major designers of these systems all the time.