*updated Concept Resized Renewed*

[crazy_boarder_dude]

well i made it better made the wheels better n im still working on it if all goes well im gonna sketch a pic of front and rear also remember this is a personal concept not meant to be copied or anything
comments and crits are greatly appreciated

[mike@af]

Dammit, post things in the right forum...this is my last warning for anything period.

[Jeep_Rubicon]

Looks much better, you probably could have just posted it in your old thread.

[crazy_boarder_dude]

latest update

[Jeep_Rubicon]

I think you should round it off more. Make it look more modern.

[crazy_boarder_dude]

hey thanx for the tip Jeep_Rubicon but i lik it like that like the cadillac cien and enzo ...theyre not rounded

[Jeep_Rubicon]

Ya, that's true, I guess it depends on what look your going for.

[crazy_boarder_dude]

mi next one will be more round

[bonzelite]

wheelbase is rather short. looks like someone took about 12 to 18 inches out of the middle, chopped it, then welded it back.

the design is nice. looks a bit 80's. but the idea is pretty good. do a front and rear view, maybe a top view. like a blueprint.

[Ra_15]

Better drawing. You should do a front view so we can see whats going on with that front wheel arch.

[crazy_boarder_dude]

i got rough sketches of teh front and back im in the process of scanning them

[crazy_boarder_dude]

here it is front and back

once again very rough sketches

[HighOctaneNOSUser]

Doesn't look too bad... but I think the angles are bit too hard. I mean, like sharp, y'know? maybe round out the edges of the angles a bit to give it the retro modern look you seem to be going for...

[AnsisK]

Originally Posted by crazy_boarder_dude

like the cadillac cien and enzo ...theyre not rounded

Yes both are very round. What we are all trying to say is that your car is TOO edgy. There seem to be protrusions everywhere. Those wheel covers really are too much. The design in general is WAY too busy. It reminds me of the Back the to Future DeLorean. It's got too much too it. I don't know where you see the edginess in the Enzo. There are some sharper edges, but most are all rounded and very complimentary. The Cien on the other hand is an entire different story. This car has many edgy lines (the shoulders, let's say), but all in all, the car is gracious and simple. Like the Pinin, the Cien's lines all flow together nicely. Most of the detailing on yours looks bolt-on. None of it flows nicely.

I suggested the book in your other thread (How to Design Cars like a Pro). This guides you through what a design needs to be, and what has made previous designs so good. I personally have a list of cars that completely define design genious, all in their own very way. One of the top designs on that list is the Pagani Zonda. It's raw lines (some places a little too protruding) completely show us how the car flows. Check every single line, every minor change in surface somehow flows into a new line. It's the most complicated and beautiful game of connect the dots in the world.

Basically what I'm trying to say is take a look at the more "edgy" designs around. Like you said, the Cien. It is very simple, which makes a choppy design less cluttered. Yours is too busy, too much to it. Nothing flows at all. Like people have said, "it looks like a third this, a third this and a third that". You don't want that. Sure it's okay to resemble other cars, but as long as they all sort of blend into one through smooth lines. You gotta get looser.

Oh and by the way, lose the compass...

... and the ruler.

I really wish I had some sketches of the Pininfarina Enzo and Cadilac Cien to show you how THEY were designed and conceived. The ideas were NOT with a ruler, but nice clean FREEHAND lines.

Good luck!

[you]

You should sketch the side view of the car i like you did with the front and back, then build of that. It looks a like an architecs (architec?) bluprint for a musiem or something..