90 celica GTS, i need at least 200hp WHP

[Iggy184]

Hey, i am sick and tired and pulling up next to a civic ex, even a dx sometimes and loosing. I know that the 5sfe, is a commuters engine, but i was wondering, what can i do to get more HP to the wheels? I am thinking of selling my car because of this, but i already added allot of aftermarket to the exterior of the car, but no engine mod. Please some one help me out. I don't want to spend more then 2 g's, oh and my car is automatic unfortunetly. What should i do???

Check out my car at this site, and tell me what u think???
http://www.onlineshowoff.com/index.a...ername=iggy174

[Dober89]

If you want to go fast on 2k I would say get a new car.

You did the car up well on the outside but you need something like a 3S-GTE to go with it.

[91 Celica St]

see my post about the good and bad of 3sgte and 5sfe

[90celicagt911]

hey, I got the same car but gt not gt-s, get a shift kit, mines standard and its not slow.

[91 Celica St]

yeah stick with the 5sfe, just put headers exhaust and intake, then change ur ignition....its a good start and youll kill any not heavily modded honda ( except shit like s2000 smart asses)

[N8L0]

I fail to understand why people go and drop 2k on the exterior of their car to make it look faster before it is acutally faster. Maybe it is just me but I prefer to be a sleeper. I mean whats the point of having 160 hp and having all the cops looking at you when you can have 250 and be ignored.

[91 Celica St]

tru, but still i like having a fast show car, where i can take it to shows and win money

[90celicagt911]

excellent point, sooo tru!

[91 Celica St]

whats the point of having a 12.5 car and having it look stock on the outside, yeah if some fag gets next to you thinkin ur cars a hooptie and you beat him.....youd still beat him even if your car looked savage

[jmrev]

too much time and money on the exterior+ f*ck that get a 3sgte engine swap!

[ghetto7o2azn]

well its all balance and priorities... different people value different things... i kno a guy whos friend died street racing... he has completely lost interest in speed and is only doing visual mods to his car... if the cops follow u arround, then dont speed... if u only care about funtionality, then hell, get a fast car that might look like crap... no one cares if u think only visial mods are stupid... keep posts like that to urself...

anyways, ontopic

200whp is a pretty hard goal to reach with a 5sfe though u dont need that much to beat a civic... if ur determined to get that much hp ur pretty much stuck with swapping the 3sgte head onto the 5sfe and adding a turbo or doing a complete 3sgte swap... the 3sgte swap would be the easier and more likely choice... swapping a 3sgte head on and adding the turbo, plus renforcing the engine due to the lack in wall size (since it will be 2.2L) is a lot of work and will probably take more time than just swapping a 3sgte... from there u start with at least 200hp and some bolt ons should get u to your goal... gl with whatever u chose to do though

[Iggy184]

Thanks everyone for the tips on how to get 200WHP, but in conclusion i think i have finally made a decision. The 5SFE is an engine that was not ment for any performance modification. Spending time and money on this engine is practically pointless, because of the fact that this engine was designed for economy. So i have made my decision, seing that my car is automatic, and i don't have allot of money to spend, i believe i am going to mount a 3sgte into a 4spd v6 camry transmition. I am not sure, or correct me if im wrong, but the v6 camry transmition will be able to handle the extra power the 3sgte gives out. I am not worried about the cost of all this because, i can get a 3sgte for $700, the transmition for like $400-$600 and i can get all that installed for under $1000. SO anyways thank you for all the advice, but i think the 3sgte is the way to go if you want to keep it cheap and if you want the power your looking for. And if all else fails im probably just gonna sell my car, and buy a brand new 2005 corolla XRS or any celica gts (6spd) from 2000-2004

[longlivetheZ]

Originally Posted by N8L0

I fail to understand why people go and drop 2k on the exterior of their car to make it look faster before it is acutally faster. Maybe it is just me but I prefer to be a sleeper. I mean whats the point of having 160 hp and having all the cops looking at you when you can have 250 and be ignored.

Can I get an amen?

[91 Celica St]

ha if you think tahts all the swap will cost you think again....you gotta buy a complete wiering harness along with hella otehr sensors and get the uce changed,as well as if you use the camry v6 tranny you have to custom forge new half shafts because the camry ones are hella longer

[Iggy184]

I live in the city of Los Angeles i know allot of backyard mechanics that can do the job for a low price. My friend did that with his eclipse RS he swapet the engine, and droped in the turbo engine, all for like $700, so don't worry about the cost, because i got my connections