v-twins and inline fours

[J-bandit]

I am thinking of buying a different bike. I have a 2001 suzuki bandit 600s right now and am either looking into a supersport 600 or a litre bike v-twin. Is the performance on both of those machines pretty much the same and if not, what are the differences (everyday riding differences as well as stunting differences)?
My friends pull wheelies on the highway with their supersport 600 bikes by bouncing the forks and clutching them up in second gear. What is the method of pulling up a wheelie on the highway (55 to 60 mph) with a litre bike v-twin and is it attainable.
Litre bike v-twins don't have the revs that a supersport 600 has. Are those high revs important for stunting and wheelies and such?
I dont do any racing, just mostly riding with my friends and a little stunting here and there. Any information on the differences, simmilarities, pros, and cons on these two types of bikes would be a great help to me in making a decision. The more information the better off I will be.

[EGcivicSi]

Well I have a R6 right now and it will come up pretty easy in first with just power. Go to about 8 grand then cut off and back on hard and it comes up quick. 2nd though are all clutch or bounce and 3rd and 4th can be done but I cant do them and dont need too. At 55-60 you can do a second gear clutch easily on any 600 ss. Its up to you to hold it out. My friend has a TL1000s and he can power them up in first no prob of course and sometimes second. Anything after that is clutch.

Now the fun part. I did roll ons with him in every gear. 1st gear almost dead even and I have about 4000 extra rpms so around that time I pulled on him slightly but as soon as he hits second I get pulled on pretty hard and myne will top out higher than his strictly due to the 4 cylinders. We both have quite a few mods and almost all the same mods at that, so its pretty even. Now he pulls on me on gears 2-5 in the roll ons. But 1st im slightly ahead for the higher rpms and in 6th I pull on him pretty easy. I think I mentioned everything. Hope that helps.

[flex339]

inline fours make power in the higher revs. V-twins don't rev as high, but they have a lot of low end torque.

[Z_Fanatic]

A 1000CC SS V-twin is much more powerful than a SS inline 4 600. The proper and correct comparison is between a SS 748 V-twin and SS inline 4 600. Having said that, Im not sure how Suzuki holds up with their 1 liter v-twins (SV-1000, TL-1000S), but it holds true for Ducatis, Aprilia, and even Honda. TL-1000R might be the stronger twin from the Suzuki family.

With v-twins, they don't need to be over-revved, since most power lie within low and mid-range. Where as the inline 4 has it above the midrange. This is just a relative generalization, and not set in stone.

Which would indicate why V-twins are better for twisities while inline 4s have the advantange over straights. Given that both riders are equally skilled.

My understanding is... v-twins are charged with robust power in low-rpm range, and it decreases as the rpm increases. On the contrary, the inline 4's power increases as the rpm are higher in the range.

So I don't see why SS v-twins can't be used for wheelies. The little SV650 is notorious for stunting.

[aussieidiot]

My opinion comes straight from my track days on my old gixer 750t
i was racing against, ducati 996,749,tlr1000 and aprillia mille. all were infront of me at some stage throughout the day. they all were quick out of the corners. they would get away by about 2 bike lengths but by the next corner i'd be able to take them if i wasn't scared of making them drop their bikes. on the straight it was all over at the end. whip past about half way and onto the next target.

now on my blade they don't get away and i take them before corners with room to spare

[Z_Fanatic]

lol, hey aussie, you got health insurance to cover track days mishaps?

[Wolf]

Originally Posted by J-bandit

What is the method of pulling up a wheelie on the highway (55 to 60 mph) with a litre bike v-twin and is it attainable.

The method is practice doing them in abandoned parking lots till you're "good". Wheelies on the freeway (especially if you don't know how to do them) is the absolute stupidest thing you can do.