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Old 08-06-2004, 12:38 AM
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Custom hood

alright... a friend of mine has a 02' cavalier and he want a ram air hood... we looked at some and prices where outragous and the hoods weren't all that original looking... I have some exsperience in fiberglassing and was wondering how bad it would be to make a custom hood... Does anyone have any idea how much (as in price) the foam is that im going to need to make a mold of the factory hood? MY gmae plan for now is to make a mold of the original and then carve in the ram air opening and then make a fiberglass hood from that... Just need price one the molding foam and suggestions are gladdly accepted... thanks...
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Old 08-06-2004, 03:24 AM
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Re: Custom hood

No Clue But I'm A Little Curious As To How Hard That Is, Making Fiberglass?
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Old 08-06-2004, 08:18 AM
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Re: Custom hood

The molds to recreate a whole hood isnt foam, its similar to a vulcanized rubber and is very expensive. I suggest working on the stock hood.

The foam you need is poly-urethane foam. It will cost you between $50 and $75USD. Then you need some 105 and 205 Epoxy resin/hardner. You will end up spending about $200-$300USD.

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Re: Custom hood

im alright with the $200-300 becuz that is cheaper than the $600+ for a hood. I cant work with the original hood becuz y design is way to radical to just mod the stock hood. there are two reasons i dont want to use the stock hood...

1. That requires the modification of the hood and we want to keep the hood as a back-up or replacment

2. It requires me to fabricate using metal and im not that exprenced with welding and with a few other things i need to do to make the hood...

So the molding stuff is going to cost me $75???

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Old 08-07-2004, 01:42 PM
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im alright with the $200-300 becuz that is cheaper than the $600+ for a hood. I cant work with the original hood becuz y design is way to radical to just mod the stock hood. there are two reasons i dont want to use the stock hood...

1. That requires the modification of the hood and we want to keep the hood as a back-up or replacment

2. It requires me to fabricate using metal and im not that exprenced with welding and with a few other things i need to do to make the hood...

So the molding stuff is going to cost me $75???

Thanks for your help...
I see call around the local salvage yards and find an extra Cavalier hood. It will be a lot easier, and cheaper to modify a stock hood rather than getting a mold made and creating a new hood.

The foam will cost you at least $75, maybe more.
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Old 08-08-2004, 01:19 PM
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Re: Custom hood

im doing a sort of cowl/ram air hood and i do not... nor does my friends have... the skill to modify the stock hood (working with the metals and stuff)... Fiberglassing is fiar cheap and real easy. Making the mold is the only hurtel i have to jump.
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Old 08-09-2004, 02:27 PM
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Re: Custom hood

I used a die grinder to port my hood , used a tape measure to precisely measure the ports. I drew the shape i intended to use on one side first then over lapped the cut out to the opposite side remeasured to ensure the eveness of the hood ports locations then reproduced the other port exactly. No one ever showed me how to do this I came up with it on my own and minutes later i was cutting. I wouldnt use fiberglass on a metal hood , it shrinks warps and cracks , the best thing to do is make the entire hood ( if you do this and it works I will call you a genious) I am really interested in the resins and what you can do with them , if theres some way to modify the hood by adding fiberglass on it i really would love to learn it. Man oh man I hope that theres a way to do it without bullocksing it.
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for one... im making an entire new hood.. for two... the design of the hood im making is a cowl hood with a ram air before it drops... the cowl wont be really uproubted and the hood will flow. Either i have to be really good with metal or i need to make it out of fiberglass... and im opting to use the fiberglass...
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Re: Custom hood

You can make a mold of the hood with regular fiberglass. You coat it in mold release wax so the resin doesnt stick to it.
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You can make a mold of the hood with regular fiberglass. You coat it in mold release wax so the resin doesnt stick to it.
Why didnt I think of that?
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The reason i want to make a mold of the original hood with the foam/rubber stuff is so i could carve into it and make my design and then lay the fiberglass.... that way i only have to lay the glass to conform to the shape of my "modded" mold. If i make a mold of the orignal hood with fiberglass and still try to use my design, it will be VERY difficult.
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Re: Custom hood

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for one... im making an entire new hood.. for two... the design of the hood im making is a cowl hood with a ram air before it drops... the cowl wont be really uproubted and the hood will flow. Either i have to be really good with metal or i need to make it out of fiberglass... and im opting to use the fiberglass...
im sure your project will turn out great , i forgot to mention that i like your truck makes me want to fix one up in a bad way
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Re: Custom hood

well, there has been somewhat od a dent in my project... my friend has went and bought a 78' camaro and now his focus is on that car :/ ... when we get around to making the hood i will give u all an up date... and thanks mark
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Re: Custom hood

Ok Ive done this once and it work ok. Cover the org. hood with release film or release wax. Fab up a box that will fit around the hood, cardboard works. Go to home depot and get Great Stuff this is a brand name of spray foam the max expanding is what i used. Spay inside your fabed box. MAKE
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Re: Custom hood

Opps....... MAKE SURE YOU HAVE SOME MATS OR SMETHING DOWN TO CATCH THE OVERFLOW!!! After bout an hour you should be able to pull your mold off. Cover your mold with release film (saran wrap) if you dont the resien will melt it. Great Stuff can be sculped as well.
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