why go sr20? or stick with the ka24?

[nonsr20]

OK now alot of people are fooled by the big bad sr20 motor. The KA24 is a very capable powerplant. Parts are coming out for it and note that the ka24 is bigger. Turbonetics makes a turbo for the ka24 that will bring the ka24 to enourmous amounts of power. For those in california yall might have to stick with the greddy turbo because it is SMOG LEGAL. if you are struggling for KA24 parts go to the jim wolf technologies website and there are tons of parts for the KA24. You can also go to www.axronline.com and those KA24 haters can eat a fat you know what cuz the KA24 is a very good motor. Stock the sr20 puts out a good 210hp but with the xs engineering turbo bolted on to the stock ka24 it put out a good 229@ 5600 rpm and that is just a stage 1. stage 2 is coming out soon and that is bragged at 250 hp. On top of that, it is emmisions legal in cali. Well if any of you sr20 fu*kers wanna mess with me, bring it. Thats all I gotta say. this is what you look like whan your sr20 breaks down cuz that sh!t costs an arm and a leg to fix.

[zauber]

i think most people that swap for sr are quite aware of the 240 potential. i myself was really tempted on building my ka24 then the motor started breaking down and i had to spend 500 dollars to get it running again. not saying ka's are bad personally i think they are great just the person that had the car before me i think didn't take too care of it. the reason behind me swapping? can't exactly say, but i'd like to try it and i am quite fond of the japanese culture. not saying that is the main reason more or less i want to try it out.plus i don't live in cali. i live in pennsylvanis actually and the emissions for a ob1 car are weak so i think i should ok. not going against you i'd actually like to see what a ka24 can do. if anyone has some vids of ka24 hitting some power pm me please
i don't like to be biasist(sp?) towards anyone or how they build their motor. but i am still going sr.

[sRscooby]

haha, what a first post but people have their opinions and this will of course bust out the usual sr20det vs kar24de-t thread, hurray.

[mrflip69]

XS Engineering Turbo kit is emissions legal in California? Since when?... Even Greddy is still pending CARB approval

[Chuki_breath]

heres another ka24 site www.phatka-t.com but yea this is going to be another war.....i say who cares what engine people want there both bad ass. But i guess its better to fight over 2 bad ass engines than be like civics and fight over what color light up muffler is better!!!!!! And i hope that argument will never happen for a 240. Thats funny that us 240 owners have nothing better to do than fight about good ass engines. it makes me feel proud just to even have one.

oyea zauber there is a vid of s13 hitting 400 hp on stock internals on the site i listed check it yo!!!!!

o yea and nonsr keep in mind that kit is over 4 grand...then if you dont know how to install that ads up even more....an sr20 is cheaper for that amount of hp. Unless you get a non running sr20 which takes some rebuilding to get to run ok. But kits are waaaaay overpriced just make your own damn "kit" as i like to say.

[sRscooby]

i'd love to turbo my ka, but i wish my engine didn't have such high milage. after rebuild with stronger internals, it'd probably come out to the price of buying an SR/RB20det with lower, much lower milage. i've been considering rb20det due to the fact that has a stronger block and is rev happy, and the uniqueness factor in my city would be very high which is what i'm going for. but, we'll see once the money comes, heh.

[nissanfanatic]

Its ironic you posted this. I had some kid at Advanced today tell me that my KA24DE is going to blow on 5psi when my compression is only 10 under factory. And when I asked for a Autometer boost guage(cheap and fairly good) he asked if that was a company. Sorry for the anecdote but I vote KA24DE-T. I respect the SR very much and indeed all powerful engines, but the KA is just badass. Capable of 10sec quarter times built and 13 sec quarters reliable on stock internals if tuned properly. Please no wars. They are getting old.

[Chuki_breath]

lol nissanfanatic....i love when people try to tell me stuff like that when you know what there saying has been proven wrong. I just smile and nod. Plz tell what did he drive? cuz when this happens to me its always some kid in like an 80's civic or some other complete beater ass car with stickers all over it....which would explain why he would want to work at a parts store.

[nissanfanatic]

Dude I don't know. Supposedly he was building a 350 stroker. cough:BULLSHIT:cough. He tried to sell me a Faze guage. Truthfully I would rather have a Greddy or an Apexi boost guage, but I was hoping these guys could get me a guage by tommorrow. I guess they only sell the guages that were seen in the fast and the furious. Then he said that a 13 sec car was slow? WTF. IMO a 14 sec car is fast if it was built by the driver. He has never drove or ridden in a 15 sec car. What a douche. BTW they wouldn't give me a job because I'm 17. LMAO I'll drive my KA-T up there when its done and ask for a carbon fiber shift knob so I can run 10s and beat ferraris.

[Chuki_breath]

lol thats funny....he has never been in a 15 sec car but boasts at whats fast and not fast??? granted 13 sec isnt the almighty but still is fast and satisfying.

[zauber]

teh sad thing is i only thought where i lived kids drove around in civics with stickers... but whatever. yeah a 14ssecond car is quick i know i don't know everything, btu still the story makes me sad. i think last time i ran some one it was a fastback 240 i won, but barly very barly. but to get to the story i meant i followed him to a parking lot and told him that it was fun a shook his hand i told him when we both swap i'd like to run him again for fun. he and his friends looked at me and were like but you won shoudlnt' you be dancing and pushing it in his face. and i was like huh umm i do this for fun and for the sport. good race see you around.
to me a race is a race i will run a 9 second car with a stock 240 it's the fun i enjoy.everyone love to win as i do myself, but it's fun that brings me out there everyone weekend i can.

[publicenemy137]

I am also going to stick to the KA. I plan to get jwt cams, CP forged pistons, jwt tuned ECU, and maybe one day an F-max turbo kit

[techno240]

ive been waiting to get my own word in on this for awhile without starting my own thread because i didnt want to be responsible for starting a war. Here it goes.
sr20's are usually about 2000 right, average. Throw in your shipping. truthfully i dont know what it would be but id say at least a couple of hundred dollars right?
put in the fact that your a mechanic and you can do all of the wiring and installation yourself.
add your 300+ in various parts you need (chips, spare parts on your engine that were supposed to be on the engine but arent)
what have you got, about 2500 easy thats being cheap.
now your pushin about 215 hp with an s13 or s14 sr ( you wont touch a s15 engine for less than three grand and thats just the engine)
take that money and see what you can do for your ka
do your full exhaust with 4-2-1 headers, shave your heads, poke and polish those heads. put on a decent intake. add a throttle body spacer for some turbulent air, bigger injectors (find some that are bigger and fit your car, dont buy the performance their like 500 bucks for a set),
toss on a msd sci (sport compact ignition) and some 9 or 10 mill wires add a stage 1 clutch maybe 2 depending on what your future plans are and there you go. your looking at close to 290 hp non-turboed and at the wheels. plus when it comes to holeshot we all know that that torque ridden ka will tear up that sr and with the msd no missing at high rpms and gas to get it there that narrow powerband will get wider and wider.
NOTICE i do admit a couple of downfalls of the ka number one: its f*ckin heavy this throws off the 50/50 weight ratio it has with that light aluminum block sr. also the sr is built for a turbo and therefore it withstands the effects of a turbo the ka does not. dont think that you can just throw a turbo on a ka crank the boost to 10 psi and say you got horsepower. horsepower is only horsepower if its either reliable or you have the money to rebuild it when it takes a turn for the worse AKA detonation. well thats just about all i got in me this evenin so later and i look forward to the interesting replies. peace

[pantlegz]

why dont you get pmd instead of jwt? but as far as engines are conserned they both have the same potential 400-500 streetable hp.. the only big diferance if you're willing to spend that kind of money is what the purpose is drag or drift...Ka's power band is more suited for drag and SR more suited for drift.. Either would be good for autox really. So I think the argument shouldn't be which is better but what you want to do.

[Import240]

YEA Idefintely think so0.
TEchno240 u said that u will blow a a ka24 motor with around 10 psi boost. A couple post before u some guy posted this ka24 doin 15psi boost pushin out 404 rwhp. ON STOCK AND INTERNAL. Damn i think thats good. I do agree with u thought that a ka with stock internals would blow under high boost. but acording to www.phatka-t.com ( a bulder of turbo kits) says it won't and has the dyno rsults to prove it but idk u guys decide.