aftermarket support

[3kgt8]

is it true that the aftermarket support for 3g eclipses really sucks? or is there really a good aftermarket out there to make a 3g Eclipse pretty fast. with pretty fast i mean 12s or 13s.

[johnnyBgood]

To get that, you need to have forced induction. If you have a GT, you have 2 options. The AAI turbo kit from me or the RippMods supercharger. The turbo kit makes more power and is overall cheaper.

[eclipsed4utoo]

building the engine might get you into the 13s but that can get expensive

[Shpyder]

Turbochargers OWN motoring and superchargers. Bang for the buck. Going out all motor can get extrememly expensive. Superchargers are slow and require maintenence and are expensive. I think ive seen turbo kits for 2G 2.4 ltrs though...

[FIGG]

mybuddy has a v6 3g....with Nos his runnin 13's..

[Shpyder]

NOS is temporary, bad for your motor, has to be refilled, u gotta time it, etc. its not a solution for everyday driving or casual racing.

[eclipsed4utoo]

Originally Posted by Shpyder

Turbochargers OWN motoring and superchargers. Bang for the buck. Going out all motor can get extrememly expensive. Superchargers are slow and require maintenence and are expensive. I think ive seen turbo kits for 2G 2.4 ltrs though...

Superchargers are slow?? you can get the same amount of horsepower with a supercharger as you can with a turbo.

[eclipsed4utoo]

the turbo for our cars are like $3500, and the superchargers are like $3800. how can u say that superchargers are expensive??

[johnnyBgood]

Supercharging all depends on the application and the tune of the system. Those drag cars that run 4-6sec 1/4 miles all use roots style supercharging.

this discussion has been waged before. The better method really lies in the eye of the beholder. The 3G reacts very well to supercharging, but even better to turbo. Other cars react better to supercharging and not turbo. It really all depends.

[eclipsed4utoo]

i think the RS/GS respond better to a turbo, and the GT/GTS respond better to superchargers

[Shpyder]

Im not sure what you mean by cars "reacting" better to supercharging or turbocharging. If a supercharger kit is easily available for a car, but no turbo kit, then yes i guess the car would "react" better, The fact is, turbocharged cars have always been faster. this may seem somewhat of an open ended statement, but for street cars, though supercharging ofcourse makes for more hp than stock motoring, turbos are faster, and the components of turbocharging are a lot more upgradeable.

Same hp? Turbos hit peak boost at 3000-4500 RPM...superchargers are belt driven and hit peak at...well, redline.

[johnnyBgood]

That is not true. Centrifugal superchargers hit max boost at redline. Roots and screw blowers hit max boost at about 1300 rpm.

plus, I know of a WRX running a turbo that does not spool until 4700 rpm.

And fact is that there is now a turbo kit for all versions of the 3G.

[FIGG]

Originally Posted by johnnyBgood

That is not true. Centrifugal superchargers hit max boost at redline. Roots and screw blowers hit max boost at about 1300 rpm.

plus, I know of a WRX running a turbo that does not spool until 4700 rpm.

And fact is that there is now a turbo kit for all versions of the 3G.

well said

[Sleepr awd]

Originally Posted by eclipsed4utoo

Superchargers are slow?? you can get the same amount of horsepower with a supercharger as you can with a turbo.

Superchargers aren't necessarily slow, its just that when it comes to the acceleration, the turbo comes in bursts of running psi that increase exponentially instead of evenly, making turbos feel faster it is possible the supercharger is slower, but its a matter of opinion

[archer255]

The last time I ran anything with a supercharger was a 1970 camero. Off the line a turbo would start to walk away from me but down the stretch I would eat the turbo. You have to consider the type of supercharger and tubro boost. There are TOO many different combination that can be tried. If you want something totally freaky try combining a turbo for initial accelleration with a supercharger to backside power. Don't try it unless you have more money to throw away than the military spends on an F117