-
Go Back   Automotive Forums Car Chat > Mitsubishi > 3000GT/Stealth
Register FAQ Community
Reply Show Printable Version Show Printable Version | Subscription Subscribe to this Thread
 
Thread Tools
  #1  
Old 07-22-2004, 05:37 PM
racer6 racer6 is offline
AF Regular
 
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 96
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
whats faster in the 1/4

someone was saying that a automatic would be faster in the 1/4 then a stick is this true? ( if cars are equal)
__________________

chris's bad azz 3000gt sl (''sucks gas & hauls ass'')
(chick magnet)
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 07-22-2004, 05:43 PM
youngvr4's Avatar
youngvr4 youngvr4 is offline
STREET RACING GURU
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 6,437
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Re: whats faster in the 1/4

hehe no its the exact opposite
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 07-22-2004, 05:53 PM
NitroguN NitroguN is offline
AF Enthusiast
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 233
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Send a message via AIM to NitroguN
I haven't heard the 1/4 mile one. I just heard that an automatic will "shift" faster than an actual driver shifting with manual transmission. I dont know if that's true, but it does sound somewhat believable. I mean it is a "machine vs. human".

About the 1/4 mile one. I'm a noob so i'm not sure lol but my friend tells me that an Auto doesn't quite shift at the desired rpm's, while with manual "you" have the control; therefore will be faster.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 07-22-2004, 05:56 PM
Cro Cro is offline
AF Enthusiast
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 137
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Re: whats faster in the 1/4

Yea i was reading through a magazine and in there they had some guy with a supra who said that auto is better for drag racing because it shifts quicker. But he's wrong cause a manual is better. With a manual you get to drop the clutch at a high rpm and dont have to start at idle.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 07-22-2004, 06:08 PM
Cro Cro is offline
AF Enthusiast
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 137
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Re: whats faster in the 1/4

Well in a drag race ud be shifting at redline so you dont really need to be in control of that, but im not sure if they make automatics to shift at redline or if they make them to shift earlier to protect the engine.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 07-22-2004, 06:40 PM
Thourun's Avatar
Thourun Thourun is offline
AF Enthusiast
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Posts: 3,177
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Send a message via AIM to Thourun
You can launch an automatic from a higher rpm than idle, you just ppush it forward into neutral, rev to desired rom, pull it back into drive and floor it! It would be cool to have the option of shifting at redline in an auto, some cars like my/dads automatic 4Runner have this little button that forces the car to shift later nearer to redline but no manufacturer puts one in that'll only shift at redline lol that'd be cool but would bust alot of cars lol.
__________________
1995 3000GT VR-4
Installed: ESP front precat eliminating downpipe, test pipe, RF-1008 K&N, Dejon tool Y pipe, 1G DSM BOV, MSD wires, Guted rear pre cat, ISSPRO EV Marine boost gauge, IPO MBC, EGR blockoffs, Palm m515 dataloger setup, NGK iridium plugs, SPEC stage II clutch 500ft/lb, 5300k HID plug and play setup.

Soon:Topline Engineering ground wires.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 07-22-2004, 06:57 PM
racer6 racer6 is offline
AF Regular
Thread starter
 
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 96
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Re: whats faster in the 1/4

thanks guys
__________________

chris's bad azz 3000gt sl (''sucks gas & hauls ass'')
(chick magnet)
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 07-22-2004, 07:08 PM
Musashi3000GT's Avatar
Musashi3000GT Musashi3000GT is offline
AF Enthusiast
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Posts: 3,782
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Dude thats crazy Thourun! Dropping a car into gear like that will make your tranny fall flat to the floor! I made that mistake in my very first car. it didnt last very long. hahahaha, I told my sister to do it in her b/f car and it also broke hahaha.
as for manual vs. auto: the manual is better for control and can be faster out of the box. nowadays there is a new Audi transmision that can destroy any manual out there. there freaking thing is amazing, while shifting it still revs so you dont have a drop in power. I test drove a TT with one and holly crap, the days of crappy autos are over. as for professional drag cars, most of them are auto simply because no human could shift that fast. now remember I'm talking about stricktly drag cars, 1000 hp or so, nitro powered funny cars.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 07-22-2004, 07:13 PM
Cro Cro is offline
AF Enthusiast
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 137
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Re: whats faster in the 1/4

Yea neutral drops will screw your tranny real quick.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 07-22-2004, 10:21 PM
Hotshot8792 Hotshot8792 is offline
AF Enthusiast
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 1,635
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
it all depends on which cars you are driving, N/A imports . . the manuals will be quicker

turbo imports, 2WD the automatics will be faster, 4WD, will be very close

and yes, supra autos are quicker in the 1/4 than supra manuals, on turbo charged cars, autos can build more boost off the line than a manual can, and also an auto can hold boost in between gears. Now the reason mitsubishi never made auto an option in the VR-4, is when you have an AWD car, there's really no reason to have an automatic,
__________________
Daily Driver: 2004 Jeep Grand Cherokee Special Edition

1994 Mitsubishi 3000GT SL-TT Automatic - Black
3.05 L Arias Forged Pistons, Pauter Forged Rods, DR Stage 3 heads, 3SX TD05 kit w/ E16G's, CX Racing FMIC, 550cc injectors, Walbro 255lph pump, + supporting mods

1994 Mitsubishi 3000GT VR-4 - Black
Intake & Boost Controller so far


2006 Sea-Doo RXP Supercharged, Updraded SC, IC + supporting mods
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 07-22-2004, 11:39 PM
Thourun's Avatar
Thourun Thourun is offline
AF Enthusiast
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Posts: 3,177
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Send a message via AIM to Thourun
Yea well your forgettign this is a toyota truck so it can be through hell and back and not need fixing lol, also I never did it at over 2000 rpm.
__________________
1995 3000GT VR-4
Installed: ESP front precat eliminating downpipe, test pipe, RF-1008 K&N, Dejon tool Y pipe, 1G DSM BOV, MSD wires, Guted rear pre cat, ISSPRO EV Marine boost gauge, IPO MBC, EGR blockoffs, Palm m515 dataloger setup, NGK iridium plugs, SPEC stage II clutch 500ft/lb, 5300k HID plug and play setup.

Soon:Topline Engineering ground wires.
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 07-23-2004, 12:02 AM
Hotshot8792 Hotshot8792 is offline
AF Enthusiast
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 1,635
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Re: whats faster in the 1/4

Quote:
Originally Posted by Thourun
Yea well your forgettign this is a toyota truck so it can be through hell and back and not need fixing lol, also I never did it at over 2000 rpm.

actually, this is how you launch an automatic

you hold in the brake as far in as you can, then you press the gas pedal which loads up the torque converter, then let off the brake and you will get a nice instant jump off the line

but remember, never hold it in longer than 5 seconds because
#1 you'll start heating up the tranny which isnt good for the tranny
#2 you'll start retarding the timing on your motor which will definitely cause a loss in power, and might not be too good on the motor as well

but on launching an auto, on the stock car, you'll probably only be able to launch at 2200 rpms at the most if you have the accelerator pedal all the way down. One way to increase the level of launch is to get a high-stall torque converter. I have put one on my car and the launches are sooo much quicker its not even funny. Before, i was cutting 2.2 60's on the launches on the stock converter, but my high-stall is capable of launching at 3700-4000 rpms, although i will probably do most of my launching at 3000 for now.
__________________
Daily Driver: 2004 Jeep Grand Cherokee Special Edition

1994 Mitsubishi 3000GT SL-TT Automatic - Black
3.05 L Arias Forged Pistons, Pauter Forged Rods, DR Stage 3 heads, 3SX TD05 kit w/ E16G's, CX Racing FMIC, 550cc injectors, Walbro 255lph pump, + supporting mods

1994 Mitsubishi 3000GT VR-4 - Black
Intake & Boost Controller so far


2006 Sea-Doo RXP Supercharged, Updraded SC, IC + supporting mods
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 07-23-2004, 01:15 AM
sLADe781 sLADe781 is offline
AF Enthusiast
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 2,804
Thanks: 1
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Re: whats faster in the 1/4

Quote:
Originally Posted by Musashi3000GT
Dude thats crazy Thourun! Dropping a car into gear like that will make your tranny fall flat to the floor! I made that mistake in my very first car. it didnt last very long. hahahaha, I told my sister to do it in her b/f car and it also broke hahaha.

LOL That's funny! Hehe What did your sister's bf do?
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 07-23-2004, 08:32 AM
Musashi3000GT's Avatar
Musashi3000GT Musashi3000GT is offline
AF Enthusiast
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Posts: 3,782
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
nothing, he went and payed $900 for a rebuild, he has no clue why it happened, niether does my sis. both of them are clueless about cars. Actually they got a flat the other day and my sis had to change the tire in the middle of the highway cause the dum ass dosent even know how to do that!
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 07-23-2004, 01:30 PM
5 Point 7's Avatar
5 Point 7 5 Point 7 is offline
AF Regular
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 238
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
LOL, she knows how to pick the manly type.
Reply With Quote
 
Reply

POST REPLY TO THIS THREAD

Go Back   Automotive Forums Car Chat > Mitsubishi > 3000GT/Stealth


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:34 AM.

Community Participation Guidelines | How to use your User Control Panel

Powered by: vBulletin | Copyright Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
 
 
no new posts