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Old 07-20-2004, 11:50 PM
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Lightbulb I figured it out!

The stupidest question any sane individual could ask another is:
If a tree falls in the woods and there's no one present to hear it, does it make a sound?

For years I simply dismissed this question as fucking stupid.

But I was driving home from work today and happened to see a rather large limb fall from a tree, which started me thinking.

My solution:

If a tree falls in the woods and no one is there to hear it, then it does in fact make a sound, but who gives a flying squirrel shit?
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Glad to see we have such deep thinkers here



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Re: I figured it out!

me, i care alot actually
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Old 07-21-2004, 12:44 AM
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Re: I figured it out!

I care about this thread about as much as the sound of a falling tree in the woods
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Old 07-21-2004, 12:58 AM
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Re: Re: I figured it out!

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I care about this thread about as much as the sound of a falling tree in the woods
So...


exactly what is it that posessed you to post in it? If you don't mind me asking?
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Old 07-21-2004, 06:16 AM
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exactly what is it that posessed you to post in it? If you don't mind me asking?
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Re: I figured it out!

Ive got an answer: If a tree falls and you are there it makes sound waves that hit your eardrum making noise. If your not there the sound waves still go out theres just nothing to pick them up. It would make a noise.

The idiots point of view: How do you know the tree even fell if you werent there to see it?
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Re: I figured it out!

post whorage pwn3z m3!!!
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Ive got an answer: If a tree falls and you are there it makes sound waves that hit your eardrum making noise. If your not there the sound waves still go out theres just nothing to pick them up. It would make a noise.

The idiots point of view: How do you know the tree even fell if you werent there to see it?
cuz it ud still be on the ground when you came back, although who is to say it hadn't already fallen over or been put there by someone

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Re: Re: I figured it out!

I suppose it all depends on your definition of "sound". Is sound an ear recieving waves, an object making them, or the combination of both. Personally, I think sound and hearing are two different matters altogether. The tree makes a SOUND, but you don't HEAR it. How arrogant one would have to be to believe that sound can only exist if they are personally there to experience it.

I'm one of those philosophy ijits...
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Re: Re: Re: I figured it out!

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I suppose it all depends on your definition of "sound". Is sound an ear recieving waves, an object making them, or the combination of both. Personally, I think sound and hearing are two different matters altogether. The tree makes a SOUND, but you don't HEAR it. How arrogant one would have to be to believe that sound can only exist if they are personally there to experience it.

I'm one of those philosophy ijits...
This is one for the dictionary......
But I agree. A sound can be made independently of anyone being around to hear it.
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Re: I figured it out!

I learned this in philosophy class, and YES, if no one is there, there is no sound... there are molecular vibrations that travel through the local matter at 1085ft/sec in air, but this is not "sound" sound is when they strike an eardrum and a brain interpits this stimuli as something. There is no image w/o an eye is there?
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Re: I figured it out!

I disagree entirely. For instance, prior to the discovery of protons, electrons, and neutrons, did they exist. They may not have been named, but evidently they've been around awhile.

Soundwaves are merely shock waves, which are simply pulsating compressions of matter (the molecules don't actually move [in air we would call the movement of molecules "wind"]).

Right now I'm online, on my laptop, using an 802.11g connection to my wireless router, which connects through a cable modem. The waves being transmitted use the same principles as sound waves, only with a shorter wavelength. So ask yourself: If I shut down this computer, is the router still emitting a 2.4 Ghz signal?
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Seriously who cares? What happens when u fall and no one is there to hear it DO YOU MAKE A SOUND? THUMP!
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