“We will cut off the hands of those people....."

[taranaki]

“We will cut off the hands of those people, we will slit their throats if it is necessary to do so,”

Does this sound like a terrorist statement to you?

You may be surprised to learn that this came from the mouth of the new Iraqi Defence minister.He has also indicated that martial law is a possibility for Iraq when the 'handover' is completed.

Where is the freedom that Bush claimed to be bringing to Iraq?And how is martial law under this kind of extremist any better than Saddam's dictatorship?

Another of Bush's lies starts to crumble.Democracy for Iraq? Bush will never deliver.Put it in the 'fiction' file with the WMD.

http://breaking.tcm.ie/2004/06/18/story152924.html

[zebrathree]

It's the Arabic way.

[DGB454]

Originally Posted by taranaki

“We will cut off the hands of those people, we will slit their throats if it is necessary to do so,”

Does this sound like a terrorist statement to you?

You may be surprised to learn that this came from the mouth of the new Iraqi Defence minister.He has also indicated that martial law is a possibility for Iraq when the 'handover' is completed.

Where is the freedom that Bush claimed to be bringing to Iraq?And how is martial law under this kind of extremist any better than Saddam's dictatorship?

Another of Bush's lies starts to crumble.Democracy for Iraq? Bush will never deliver.Put it in the 'fiction' file with the WMD.

http://breaking.tcm.ie/2004/06/18/story152924.html

I agree with zebrathree on this one. It's the way they deal with criminals there. Unfortunatly it's the way Sadaam dealt with anyone who opposed him whether they were criminals or not.Not to mention trying to wipe them off the map with chemical weapons. I think martial law is a mistake. Mostly because there aren't enough trained Iraqi military personnel yet to carry it out. US personnel will have to be used and that will only piss the rest of the world off more.

[YogsVR4]

Is there martial law there now? Or is this more postering and hyperbole again?

blah blah blah

[psychobadboy]

So in other words, once the US government hands over control, nothing's gonna change? Democracy isn't in the Iraqi vocabulary. I don't even know why anyone tried.

[DGB454]

Cause we were really bored.

[lazysmurff]

sickening....

thats all i have to say

[taranaki]

Originally Posted by YogsVR4

Is there martial law there now?

Don't know.Better ask all those foreign guys in tanks and jets.....

[Flatrater]

Finally a topic Naki started that isn't bashing Bush to bits.

Naki do you have a better idea to get Iraq under control? If so please send an email to the President of the USA explaining your idea. Right now its not working, when it doesn't work you have to get harsher, once in line things can change.

[-GS-]

Originally Posted by Flatrater

Finally a topic Naki started that isn't bashing Bush to bits.

Naki do you have a better idea to get Iraq under control? If so please send an email to the President of the USA explaining your idea. Right now its not working, when it doesn't work you have to get harsher, once in line things can change.

So by your logic, if something doesnt work you have to be harsher? So if noone listens to you, do you cut off their ears to be harsher? No...and how do you know its not working? All you see is the stuff that CNN and all those other shitty government biased tv news shows you see, so sorry bud, i'm gonna have to say that Martial law is not the right way to go....

And once things get into line, and the punishments arent as severe, then everyone will do whatever they want, since the punishments will seem like basically nothing to them then... If anythign i say try to keep the country calm at this moment and not to introduce martial law (unless its allready been introduced)

These are just my , you dont have to agree with them, but thats the way i see it...

[Flatrater]

So are you saying that we should take their shit and when they act up just smack their behinds in hopes they will calm down and stop?

How about we have a shoot on site policy? If we see a gun on you we kill you! That would stop alot of it. Or you kill one of our solidrs or policeman we kill 10 of yours.

Do you have any kids? When my kids misbehave they get thrown into thier rooms and told to stop the shit. That works rubbing their ass telling them to behave doesn't. So yes tighten the reigns to control the people.

[-GS-]

No thats not what im saying, im saying that yes there should be punishments but not as harsh as "cutting off peoples hands, and slitting their throats." If you wanted to do that then Saddam's power should never have been taken away from him. He ruled with an iron fist, and look at how all the other countries look at it, hell even if he didnt kill innocent people and just killed all criminals, its still just as bad." And what gives anyone the right to take another persons hand or slitting their throat? If the government can do it then why cant anyone else? Why should the government have special power? It is also made up of people, so why in the hell are they above the law?


Just remember: Violence does not end Violence....

[Raz_Kaz]

/\ I hope your kidding about the rubbing of your childrens ass, maybe thats why they are misbehaving....
No one knows a for sure way to get Iraq under control...let's just see how this works out and try and use another method better than martial law...

[taranaki]

Originally Posted by Flatrater

Right now its not working, when it doesn't work you have to get harsher, once in line things can change.

Nice theory,but the capital punishment argument kinda blows it out of the water.In theory,the countries with capital punishment should have the lowest murder rates......ooooooooooops,not the case.

Perhaps if you think it's such a good idea to get tougher on people until they comply with the law,you could address the issue of firearms -related murders?the countries with the highest firearms related murders should have the toughest gun ownership laws? ooooops. never mind.

Your argument isn't working,and isn't being universally applied.

[Sean]

Originally Posted by Flatrater

do you have a better idea to get Iraq under control?

That's the problem. When America stops trying to control the world, the world may stop hating it. Cracking down on Iraq won't stop terrorism, it will just make it worse.