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Old 06-21-2004, 11:12 AM
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I just saved a 1970 Super Bee from the crusher. The body is absolutely trashed and rotten. The entire drivetrain and interior are intact. I don't know Mopars so I need some help figuring out what I have. I think it is a 440 4 bbl. 440 is stamped in the block in front of the single 4bbl. intake. It is an automatic with power steering, floor shifter and console, buckets seats, no tach. I have the vin #, can anyone tell me how to be sure it is a 440 and how it was originally equipped? I will be parting this car out, I need the $ for another project and a new baby on the way. Any help would be appreciated, Thanks

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Old 06-21-2004, 01:26 PM
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Re: 70 Super Bee

Put the VIN into this Java applet on this page, I know it says "Challenger VIN Decoder", but I've correctly decoded other Mopar cars with this applet. It works.

http://www.davediana.free-online.co.uk/svin.htm

This might mean the car came with a 440-4, but you can't be sure that the 440 that's in the car now is actually the one the car came with, you'd have to check the tags on the block against the other tags on the car, like the dash VIN and the fender tag.
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Old 06-21-2004, 03:43 PM
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Re: 70 Super Bee

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I plugged in the VIN and it turns out that it was originally a 383 "High Power" (code N). I'll check the block #s as soon as possible. I don't know if the 440 stamped in the top of block in front of the intake means anything or not. The engine appears to be original and not modified. The only thing missing is the air cleaner. Thanks for the link, www.71superbee.com has a good vin decoder as well. Now on to find out what a 383 high power is...
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Re: 70 Super Bee

That same page I sent you to tells you where you can find the identification pads on the engines. That's what you should check.

A 383 high-power is a wicked engine...

The previous owners could have very easily slipped a 440 in place of that 383. Whichever engine it is, you should tear it down and find out what the deal is, maybe rebuilt it and sell it, or use it. These are good motors.
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Old 06-22-2004, 11:17 AM
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Re: 70 Super Bee

Thanks Again. I hope to bring it home this weekend. I will be parting out the entire drivetrain and anything under the hood. Radiator, power steerting, etc. are all there and in good condition. The interior has bucket seats and console that can be saved. All the glass is good too. Other than that the car is absolutely trashed. Every body panel is smashed or severly rusted or both. Anything else specific to the Super Bee that I should know about?
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Re: 70 Super Bee

umm, before you go parting it out you might want to try to sell the car complete. you might be sureprised. you would probably be able to get more for the intire car than if you parted it out. all you need to do is advertise. there are many people looking for cars like that and when its something liek that people will go to great legnths to fix it.
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Yeah, someone might be able to use that whole thing. Maybe someone already has quarters and a front clip for it, and floor pans and whatever else it needs. Someone might be looking for this car, you should really advertise it before parting it out...
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Re: 70 Super Bee

I'll think about it. It would defintely be easier. Since the original engine is already gone, I figured parting it out was not such a sin. I suppose you can fix anything but this is bad. I just got some pics but they are too big to attach here. If someone wants to see them I can email to you. Sorry, still new at this forum stuff...
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Send me a pic or two at [email protected]
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Re: 70 Super Bee

That car is very savable! Don't part it out! From what I can see, the only thing it might need is a hood. I was expecting to see a car with rotten quarters and fenders and A-pillars, but this car looks very healthy! You could still get quite a bit of money for this car I'm sure. I don't know what the frame looks like or anything, but definitely all the body panels are reusable...

I think you should fix that car or sell it to someone who will. There's no sense in parting out a good car like that...
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I'd need an FTP client to put it on my webspace, but this computer doesn't have an FTP client. I can't post it without that...
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Re: 70 Super Bee

If I lived in Maryland, I'd make an attempt to go pick it up and give it a new home. It looks like an easy resto.

Too bad those hood scoops aren't still on there. This must have been a Ramcharger car I would think...
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