camoro or firebird

['67'cuda]

my little bro is looking for a car and he likes the pony cars from GM if their is more fell free to add (i dont know GMs) so could he get one for less then $5000$ without doing alot of work to it to get it driveable. hes also parcial to the novas and chevelles (alot of people are) thx

[jkramb19]

i'd go with the firebird because you dont see nearly as many of them as you do camarros, plus they havent really gone up in value a lot yet, from what i hear people are predicting them to start appreciating in value soon.

[BleedDodge]

I wouldn't mind owning a '69 Firebird hardtop with a 455 in it or something, a big Pontiac motor anyway...

[65Ponchoboy]

not to sound like a dick but the 69 came with the 400 motor. go with the bird they sometimes had bigger and more powerful engines than the camaro. if ur gunna look into them look into 1st, 2nd, and 4th gen cars.

[BleedDodge]

Originally Posted by 65Ponchoboy

not to sound like a dick but the 69 came with the 400 motor. go with the bird they sometimes had bigger and more powerful engines than the camaro. if ur gunna look into them look into 1st, 2nd, and 4th gen cars.

I know the Chevy 454 and the Pontiac 455 didn't come out until 1970. My buddy has a '69 Firebird with a pushed over 455 that is now a 468. Most of my vehicles don't have original engines anyways, so it would be my choice for it to have a bigger motor in it.

[chevydrummer76]

you can't go wrong either way for those years

[65Ponchoboy]

oh alright. jeez a 468? how much hp and tq is pumping out of that thing

[BleedDodge]

It has enough, I don't know the numbers on it. It's been balanced and that's it. Headers and normal things like that. No real modifications to it...

[slantsixness]

Avid Mr. Anti-GM here...
At least you could spell CAMARO right....

[BleedDodge]

"I wanna get a Kumero someday..."

['67'cuda]

yea those qumeros are perty nice aint they but thanks for the help i like the the body of firebird better anyways

[BleedDodge]

I hear that.

[MrPbody]

They're called "F-Body" for a reason... A Camaro is nothing more than a poor man's Firebird. No comparison in the quality and style, and if you leave the engines stock, it takes a big block Camaro to touch a Firebird 400.
I don't know where the information comes from, but the idea that Firebirds are cheaper than Camaros must be pointed at the '82-'92 POSs. You'll pay a big price for a nice '69. You can forget finding a '67. They've all been gathered up...

[1g1yy]

I don't know where you get your info -- but you need to find new, more accurate sources! If you think it takes a big-block Camaro to outrun a 400 Firebird you don't know what you're talking about!!

[MrPbody]

I get my information from 30 years of experience, four years of college, 20 years of street racing, and in general, an expert in things automotive. You? Do you testify in court, in both civil and criminal trials as an automotive expert? I do. Do you rebuild more than 50 engines (of all makes) per year? I do.
Have you ever driven a '69 Camaro with with an LT1 in it? I have. Have you driven a similarly equipped '69 Firebird with a 400 in it? I have. You must notice I said "stock" engines. The Firebird will run away and hide from the Camaro. Once modified, the playing field becomes a bit more level.
You obviously love Chevys. It's okay. It takes all kinds to make a world. But your choices in life aren't necessarily the know-all/end-all. I can build a nasty small block. Part of my job. I can also build a nasty Pontiac, Dodge, Rambler, even a Ford! I like Pontiacs because they wreak of performance and subtle class. Ever look at a '70 Chevelle SS dash? Then look at a '70 GTO dash? One looks like Grandpa's Buick. The other has guage pods, full intruments, a hood tach (the original "heads up display"), real (not plastic) wood veneer, and on and on. Chevy is a good car. It just isn't the ONLY car...