My Story

[proline_subzero]

I bought my 2001 GA GT brand new, currently has just over 58,000 miles on it and counting. I love my car and the only things that have gone wrong are, in month? but in 2002 had to replace driverseat adjustment motor and again now but i dont want to mess with it. In December 2003 had antifreeze leaking in engine thank god the extended warrenty i bought paid for all of it. On may 13 2004 it broke down but it was the gas i bought wich took out my fuel filter wich i had replaced six months in december 2003 ago just for routine maintence, my fuel pump, and fuel censor total $715.00. Marathon Ashland just sent me my check for the bill. When i had the antifreeze problem i had my transmission fluid changed, fuel filter, oil change, pcv valve replaced and some other stuff total bill $1,144. I only paid 600 and that was for the stuff i wanted done. My Battery leaked and took out my windsheild washer pump witch cost me $30. The only thing i want to have fixed now is my fan only works on 3 4 and 5 so i have to always adjust the temp. So two things thank god i bought the extended warrenty and I love my GA GT.

[justin0717]

Thanks for the info, but no offense its not needed.
But glad to see you like your GA.

[Markgase2000]

I have same problem with the vents , had same problem with the antifreeze leaking inside engine(100,000 miles) same too extended warranty saved my ass. 2 rack pinions , gas pedal assembly and brake pedal assembly. on my 3rd car horn , the tail back up lights keep collecting water and burning out , front fog lights burned a circle in the center of them (removed them to stop from catching fire) ya its seen better days but runs better than ever now.

[DAMNGRANDAM]

Tell me more about the bad gas? NO PUN INTENDED - REALLY! After getting gas at Texaco where I NEVER buy gas, my car has been breaking down ever since - fuel pump is suspect of stall problem.

[GASE 95]

somehow i doubt that "bad gas" exists unless someone sabatoged the gas station or you ciphered it from a lawn mower thats been sitting for 12 yrs. I think that ur car was on the road to breaking down and it wasnt Texaco cuz i buy from there more often than not and i have no problems, so does a lot of america. Bad gas is a rumor of the 1970's and 1980's during the fuel crisis..."oh no, i think the government is giving us bad fuel so we dont drive as much!"....

[DAMNGRANDAM]

That's just what the dealer tried to tell me that I bought bad gas, that it's been happening a lot and it was also on the news.

[GASE 95]

hmm...you COULD be right but i just dont see how something as closely regulated as gasoline could be available to the public if its harmful to your car...especially bad enough to destroy a perfectly good fuel filter with only ONE tank. Mustve had some battery acid in there or something.

[DAMNGRANDAM]

Shell pays drivers for tainted gas
Sulphur harms gas gauges in Florida
Canadians denied help for problem


TONY VAN ALPHEN
BUSINESS REPORTER

Oil giant Shell is reimbursing motorists in Florida for fuel gauge repairs made necessary by contaminated gasoline, something its Canadian subsidiary wouldn't do here last year.

An official for Shell Oil's refiner in the United States has confirmed it will start sending cheques today to customers who complained about faulty gauges after buying gas containing corrosive elemental sulphur from the company and Texaco.

Johan Zaayman, a spokesperson for refiner Motiva Enterprises, said yesterday Shell has received more than 9,000 claims for the cost of repairs in less than a week from customers in Florida and nearby states after the company acknowledged a problem.

"We're accepting claims from customers to get reimbursed for the cost of the repairs of the gas gauges," Zaayman said in a telephone interview from Motiva's offices in Houston.

"The cheques will begin to go out tomorrow (Friday)," Zaayman said.

In the last week, hundreds of Shell, Chevron and Texaco service stations have sold gas with traces of elemental sulphur, which quickly corrodes the contacts on sending units in tanks and, in turn, triggers faulty gauge readings.

Motorists have run out of gas and stalled when fuel gauges read full but tanks were actually empty.

Like Shell, Chevron says it has set up a special customer hotline and will cover the cost of repairs. Costs could range from $300 to $600 (U.S.), dealers say.

The reaction by Shell in the United States differs from how the company handled customers in the Toronto region last spring and summer.

A Shell official in Canada said yesterday the company handled customers appropriately here by sending them to their dealers for reimbursement of expenses.

"When we learned of the problem, we co-operated with our mutual partners (the auto industry) to understand it," said Simone Marler, manager of public affairs for Shell Canada Products.

"We then added an ingredient to our gasoline. We directed our customers to their dealers for assistance. Our goal was to make sure our mutual customers were looked after. And they were. The issue has been resolved."

Marler said she was unaware of the circumstances in the U.S. incident.

Unsuspecting motorists bought gas tainted with elemental sulphur at Toronto-area Shell and Petro-Canada service stations in the spring and summer of 2003. They got inaccurate gauge readings and stalling, a safety hazard on busy roads.

After a lengthy investigation, Shell and Petro-Canada concluded months later their gas contained elemental sulphur.

The two oil companies denied responsibility for the faulty fuel gauges. They stressed their products exceeded industry and government standards.

At one point, a Petro-Canada official said General Motors was responsible because it used an inferior part, but later the oil company said it wasn't sure what the problem was.

Shell sent customers back to their dealers, primarily GM, for reimbursement of repairs. But many customers expressed dissatisfaction with their treatment by dealers and GM's refusal to pay for repairs.

A Star investigation showed that GM had encourntered the problem in 2000 in parts of Canada and the United States.

GM sent a notice to customers warning them about the problem and corrective action but it did not issue a recall.

It redesigned the fuel sensors so they could tolerate elemental sulphur. However, the company only started using the new sensors in models last year. GM confirmed it accelerated the installation of the redesigned part in more models late last year.

The investigation found GM notified dealers on how to handle customers in last year's incident, but the company never warned customers.

Earlier this year, GM offered a free oil change and a Petro-Canada cash card worth a total of about $55 to customers who had gauge problems.

In Tampa yesterday, Skip Greaney, fixed operations manager at Gordon Chevrolet, said the number of repairs of fuel gauges in his shop shot up to 42 in May and 10 to 12 in the first two days of this month. There were only nine similar repairs in the first four months of the year, he added. "There's been a huge spike," he said.

Meanwhile, two women from Fort Lauderdale, Fla., who say the sulphur in the gasoline damaged their cars, have filed a lawsuit against Shell Oil Co. and Motiva, alleging the companies violated state law by engaging in unfair and deceptive trade practices. Shell owns half of Motiva.

The lawsuit says the companies "knew or reasonably should have known" that the gasoline with the sulphur would have damaged the vehicles but they continued selling the fuel to motorists.

[GASE 95]

lol....ok so i was wrong. Thats insane, i never would have imagined that. I thought that gasoline was so closely regulated that supplying drivers with "bad gas" was next to impossible. Well i guess i'll just go to Kwik Fill or BP from now on. Thanks for showing me the facts dude. Later.