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View Poll Results: Which engine?
VQ35DE (350Z) 3 6.25%
RB26DETT (Skyline GT-R) 13 27.08%
VG30DETT (300ZX Twin Turbo) 2 4.17%
SR20DET (S15 Silvia) 1 2.08%
4G63T (Evolution VIII) 4 8.33%
6G72DETT (3000GT VR4) 1 2.08%
13BETT (RX-7) 2 4.17%
A853 (Neon SRT-4) 1 2.08%
2JZGTE (Supra Twin Turbo) 5 10.42%
B18C5 (Integra Type R) 4 8.33%
K20A2 (RSX Type S) 0 0%
LS1 (Camaro Z28 SS) 5 10.42%
Other, please specify... 7 14.58%
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Old 06-01-2004, 03:08 PM
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Best Engine?

Your building a kit car to race (at the drag stip and at race tracks). You’ve now gotten to the stage where it is time for you to select an engine to power your kit car. You have access to many affordable engines, and you come up with this list of engines. Which of these engines would offer you the best combination of price, ease to modify, reliability, cost to modify, and potential for more power? Which of these engines would you select?

VQ35DE (350Z)
RB26DETT (Skyline GT-R)
VG30DETT (300ZX Twin Turbo)
SR20DET (S15 Silvia)
4G63T (Evolution VIII)
6G72DETT (3000GT VR4)
13BETT (RX-7)
A853 (Neon SRT-4)
2JZGTE (Supra Twin Turbo)
B18C5 (Integra Type R)
K20A2 (RSX Type S)
LS1 (Camaro Z28 SS)
Other, please specify...
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Re: Best Engine?

who care's, all good motor's IMO.
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Re: Re: Re: Best Engine?

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anyhow, i'd take a 427 hemi over all those motors.

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Best Engine?

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DUDE! have some respect for people. holy crap, he was joking around with you. no need to go off the deep end. i'm starting to think you might be howard dean.


anyhow, i'd take a 427 hemi over all those motors.
Hemi is a 426.
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As far as motors go... There are just to many good motors there to claim one superior over any other. Some are still on the rookie side of the spectrum, and others are clearly old vets. Its still to difficult to declare the superior motor IMO.

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The LS1, hands down. Starting from 350odd horsepower at the flywheel and torque of about the same numbers. Thing can rev up to a safe 7500rpm and makes power all the way through the rev range, and there's plenty more in that aluminum gem.

Heck, Lingenfelter sells a crate turnkey LS1 stroked and bored out to 427ci (7.0L for you SAE challenged folks) with twin turbochargers that puts out 750 FREAKIN' HORSEPOWER on pump gas, reliable streetable horsepower no less.

Two true ball bearing turbochargers
Two high efficiency air to air chargecoolers
Custom molded Samco silicone air ducts
4 into 1 custom cast exhaust manifolds
Two cast turbo outlet adapters
Turbocharger scavenge pump
Turbo oil drain reservoir
Two K&N 360 degree conical air filters
Heat shields and stainless clamps
Professional installation, testing and tuning
Turbocharger water feed and return hoses
Turbocharger oil feed and return hoses
Gaskets, spark plugs and fluids
Custom 7.0 L aluminum C5R block
CNC Porting and polishing of LS1 cylinder heads
Port matched LS6 intake manifold
Billet steel connecting rods
Forged 4340 crankshaft
Forged aluminum pistons
LPE custom hydraulic roller camshaft
High performance valve springs & lightweight retainers
Stainless steel one piece heavy duty intake valves
Inconel one piece heavy duty exhaust valves
Three angle valve job, checking of spring tensions & heights
Computer balanced rotating assembly
Reassembly and blueprinting of engine
Properly sized fuel injectors and high capacity fuel system


Of course that's the list of stuff done to the engine.
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Re: Best Engine?

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The LS1, hands down. Starting from 350odd horsepower at the flywheel and torque of about the same numbers. Thing can rev up to a safe 7500rpm and makes power all the way through the rev range, and there's plenty more in that aluminum gem.

Heck, Lingenfelter sells a crate turnkey LS1 stroked and bored out to 427ci (7.0L for you SAE challenged folks) with twin turbochargers that puts out 750 FREAKIN' HORSEPOWER on pump gas, reliable streetable horsepower no less.

Two true ball bearing turbochargers
Two high efficiency air to air chargecoolers
Custom molded Samco silicone air ducts
4 into 1 custom cast exhaust manifolds
Two cast turbo outlet adapters
Turbocharger scavenge pump
Turbo oil drain reservoir
Two K&N 360 degree conical air filters
Heat shields and stainless clamps
Professional installation, testing and tuning
Turbocharger water feed and return hoses
Turbocharger oil feed and return hoses
Gaskets, spark plugs and fluids
Custom 7.0 L aluminum C5R block
CNC Porting and polishing of LS1 cylinder heads
Port matched LS6 intake manifold
Billet steel connecting rods
Forged 4340 crankshaft
Forged aluminum pistons
LPE custom hydraulic roller camshaft
High performance valve springs & lightweight retainers
Stainless steel one piece heavy duty intake valves
Inconel one piece heavy duty exhaust valves
Three angle valve job, checking of spring tensions & heights
Computer balanced rotating assembly
Reassembly and blueprinting of engine
Properly sized fuel injectors and high capacity fuel system


Of course that's the list of stuff done to the engine.


they sell that engine as a crate? I thought they only sell it as an ugrade to C5 vettes.

But anyway could you Imagine that engine paired with a mosler photon? It would be sick.
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Not sure what thier calling it, but the engine from the 2005 Ford GT
Frickin sweet V8
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Re: Best Engine?

I'd take a 4.6L DOHC, or the crate 5.0L DOHC Fords. High revving and fairly high output, but with medium compression so you could boost them.

The 5.0 puts out around 400 HP N/A, and if you put a turbo kit on there, it would fly. The blocks on those are relatively strong, and many other companies sell even stronger setups, like Sean Hyland Motorsports. If you made it with enough quality, you could rev it reliabley past 8000 rpm on lots of psi.

Although the Liggenfelter is amazing, it's specific out put is not that great.

Some of the twin turbo kits for the 4.6 DOHC allow it to achieve over 800+ HP. You would have to update the internals to the best out there however. But its a kit car and not limited as much by engine bay size or ease of access.
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Re: Best Engine?

Everyone here knows I'm a Camaro supporter so of course I'm going to have to say the LS1, actually I'd like to add the LS6 in that case, a better version of the LS1, oh, and I'd also like to give mention to the LT-5, the ZR-1 engine.
Ok, I'm not really a Turbo person, but I have ot say the 350Z and Honda engines are really impressive n/a engines... but all these engines come really close.
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Not sure what thier calling it, but the engine from the 2005 Ford GT
Frickin sweet V8
i'd have to agree with you. what car do you own??
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Old 06-02-2004, 12:48 AM
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Yeah me personally, I am a 4G63T guy, I just amazed by the potential of those engines, but the RB26DETT in my opinion is so awesome. Has such great potential it's amazing, how easy it is to modify is also amazing. I just hope the newest Skyline and it's engine can have just as much or even greater potential.
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Re: Best Engine?

B18C5 Integra Type R.

Leave it NA.

Port and polished head, Individual throttle bodies, header, intake, piped exhaust, cams, gears, chipped ecu, reinforced lighter pistons.

There you have it, a 1.8 liter engine naturally aspirated producing 265 horsepower at the crank safely, revving to 10,000 revolutions with no hesitation.

I saw an engine like this on a car show, with a dyno chart. I was impressed. I know bigger displacement engines can destroy it, but common, its so amazing for an engine to produce so much power.
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Re: Best Engine?

I would probably go for the 271 HP Evo VIII...Not surprising, is it?
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I would probably go for the 271 HP Evo VIII...Not surprising, is it?
yeah their ok but, i guess i like the car i got. it was basiclly for free and i love it, even more when i get it lowered.
any surgesstions???
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