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Old 05-31-2004, 10:51 PM
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Yet another fanatical group trying to make a statement

http://christianexodus.org/


Do these people actually believe that what they want to do is right? Even if I DID practice a religion, I would still find this to be an incredible farce. I'm not sure if any of you regularly listen to Michael Savage (I can't stand him, personally, but like they said of Howard Stern: "The people who don't like him will listen anyways, just to hear what he'll say next.") this whole exodus topic was being discussed tonight (by Savage's stand-in host) and he seemed rather supportive of it! If you don't want to bother reading into the details, I'll sum it up -- A large group of devout Christians is "tired" of this country's departure from its (supposed) Christian roots. They want to join a large enough group together, and move to (guess which state) to "peacefully" take it over politically, and then bring about a secession from the union, in order to turn the state into their own Christian country. If you haven't guessed yet, that state is (in a twist of comic irony) South Carolina, and while there may be a large Christian population there, I can't help but wonder how many of them would actually want their home state to break away from the U.S. and form its own country. The thing this wacked out "Exodus" group doesn't understand, is that their whole philosophy is wrong. They (and as of late, many conservative people who are by no means wacko) have been contending that this country has "gone down the gutter" because we're allegedly branching away from this country's founding principles, based on conservative Christian laws. The problem is, this country was NOT founded on these ideals at all. Technically, it was founded on the ideals of the tribal Native American societies that called this place home LONG before Europeans ever set foot on these shores. If one still refuses to acknowledge this, and insists on citing instead the official founding of the United States as a country, to make their point of religious basis, they still have no ground. The forefathers did NOT draft the machinations of this country based in religion, quite to the contrary actually, they explicitly insisted on that little something that too many people seem to overlook -- the all important SEPERATION OF CHURCH AND STATE. One only has to look to atrocities like the witch trials to see that blending religion with government makes for one bad concoction.

My point in posting this is to help put in perspective the fact that, while there are a lot of criticisms being levelled at factions of Muslim society as being too fanatic in their beliefs (and obviously we've seen the results of this,) NO institution is immune from fanatical devotion. So anyone who ever finds themselves (and I'm not saying it's anyone here) drawing conclusions about a group in its entirety based on the actions of certain members, should really stop and think for a second: In their judging of the whole of this group as being potentially fanatic, are not they themselves making a blind, "fanatic" stand?
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When this group gets together and starts blowing shit up - then I'll be worried. As of now, they are a bunch of kooks in the same category as the Black Panthers for wanting to have a piece of land to succeed from the union. Old story. Different group.













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Re: Yet another fanatical group trying to make a statement

Like Yogs said, at least they arent destroying things. This is another one of those things that living in this country entails; the rights and freedoms to do this sort of thing I guess. The only thing I'd like to add is to tenguzero's comment about separation of church and state. What it has become today is not even remotly what this clause was initially written to mean. The clause was included in the constitution to prohibit the United States from having a State-Church, as in England, where there was the English Church, and if you lived in England, you were part of that church. period. They didn't mean at all that religion and politics/government could have no inter-mingling. To do so gives a person a sort of schizophrenia; act one way while in office, and another outside of it. Anyways, sorry to get off topic :-X

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Re: Yet another fanatical group trying to make a statement

yup there are other goof balls like this out there if they arn't hurting anyone then thats all good let them have there crazy skeme its not like it'll work.

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Re: Yet another fanatical group trying to make a statement

reminds me of the libertarians in new hampshire. hehe
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I agree with the replied comments as well.
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Re: Re: Yet another fanatical group trying to make a statement

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reminds me of the libertarians in new hampshire. hehe
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