Big Truck? Small penis!

[Boss San]

Where did the american philosophy of bigger is better come from anyway.
And why does it always come back to automobiles.
I picked up the new issue of National Geographic the other day, and the cover story was about how the Earth is in it's final days of cheap oil (or any for that matter).
There's a really striking point made in the article about the bigger is better way of thinking.
A mom that had gone out and bought a Hummer, she was well aware of it's horrific gas mileage, (10mpg if you're lucky) high sticker price, pollution aspects and whatever else goes along with buying one.
Still bought one though. She said quote, "I don't mind the gas milelage because whenever I hit something I know I'll win." WHAT!! Are you serious.
This unfortunatly is the way many, many American's think. Oh, my truck is bigger so everyone else needs to get the hell out of my way.
What is this, automotive bullying crap? Where does it stop? Where can I go buy one of those 500 ton dumptrucks? The ones that have like 10 or 12ft. tall tires.
I might be able to fit on a two lane road, maybe. But. if I can't it won't matter, I can just smash through or run over anything in my way.
It's come to my attention that a lot of the people who end up driving these behemoth vehicles turn out to be women. I not saying they are the problem, but they sure as hell aren't part of the solution. I see it as a pychological condition.
A competition of the lowest decree. Go out and get the biggest boyfriend you can get, because he's going to protect you and kick the shit out of everyone if they mess with her.
That seems like the exact same reason why they end up behind the wheel of an F-350 Super Duty or whatever. They need the automobile that's bigger than everyone else's so it can run every one eles over if they feel threatened, and to hold a sense of personal power from the imtimidation factor due to the size of whatever they're driving.
The same however goes for guys. They feel the need to look intimidating and larger than life, mostly due to them having a wang they consider too small, so they get something huge to compensate for it. Is there a solid reason why the U.S. needs more trucks on the road than cars (which there is)?
Other than use for what they are intended for (you should know what that is) what good are they?

Comment and thoughts?

[RSX-S777]

And they usually do hit their share of objects...curbs, light poles, shopping carts, my car, my dog etc....but they win every time! Hooray!

[Zanark]

Eh most women dont like low to the ground cars espcially older ones. My mom likes suvs because shes comfortable and can sit abit high and see things. Course shes getting a reality check with the oil prices. In either case they should ban all Suv's in the states. I mean wtf is the point of them? We already have vans, pick up trucks theres no need for suvs.

[2strokebloke]

People are self absorbed idiots, out of touch with reality. That's why SUVs are popular, but I don't think they should be banned, they do have their place, even if the vast majority of them are never used for their tiny narrow niche - and most are used by idiots who are compensating for a lack of something.

[Jimster]

Originally Posted by 2strokebloke

People are self absorbed idiots, out of touch with reality. That's why SUVs are popular, but I don't think they should be banned, they do have their place, even if the vast majority of them are never used for their tiny narrow niche - and most are used by idiots who are compensating for a lack of something.

I think 2strokebloke put it best.

People who don't need an SUV, but still own one are ruining the joys of owning a car. Selfish fuckers.

[TankMMC]

The "compensating for something" reasoning is childish. It could just as well be (and often is) used for people who drive high performance cars ( why would you need one? the speed limit is only 50 )

That being said, the SUV trend is silly. I dont mind the big ones so much since at least you can see the point to them - plenty of load space, well-built, and they can (if you want to) go anywhere. Its the little poser ones, like RAV4, CRV, etc that baffle brains. I have so far failed to see any point to those things.
- They are NOT safer in a crash ( I have seen an aftermath of a Suzuki Vitara vs Ford Fairmont crash and the SUV was in WORSE condition, the Ford t-boned it and folded the cabin half a metre inwards. Not to mention theyre more prone to roll-overs.)
- They are SLOW. A lot of them are powered by the same engines used in normal cars (like the 3sfe/3fge used in the camry and rav 4).
- They can NOT go offroad. They have crap clearance, weak suspension and shitty part-time 4wd systems. Those DO NOT WORK OFF ROAD.
- They are impractical. (You mean my Camry s/w can seat 7 people and your SUV can seat 5 ?? )

[RSX-S777]

Originally Posted by TankMMC

- They can NOT go offroad. They have crap clearance, weak suspension and shitty part-time 4wd systems. Those DO NOT WORK OFF ROAD.

I don't see the difference between people who own a huge suv and never go offroad and people who own a "poser" suv and never go offroad. How many women driving H2s do you see heading to the Rubicon for the weekend? It's a status symbol, not a necessity. At least the posers burn less fuel and "pose" less of an accident hazard on the roads...

[-Josh-]

Originally Posted by Boss San

Where did the american philosophy of bigger is better come from anyway.
And why does it always come back to automobiles.
I picked up the new issue of National Geographic the other day, and the cover story was about how the Earth is in it's final days of cheap oil (or any for that matter).
There's a really striking point made in the article about the bigger is better way of thinking.
A mom that had gone out and bought a Hummer, she was well aware of it's horrific gas mileage, (10mpg if you're lucky) high sticker price, pollution aspects and whatever else goes along with buying one.
Still bought one though. She said quote, "I don't mind the gas milelage because whenever I hit something I know I'll win." WHAT!! Are you serious.
This unfortunatly is the way many, many American's think. Oh, my truck is bigger so everyone else needs to get the hell out of my way.
What is this, automotive bullying crap? Where does it stop? Where can I go buy one of those 500 ton dumptrucks? The ones that have like 10 or 12ft. tall tires.
I might be able to fit on a two lane road, maybe. But. if I can't it won't matter, I can just smash through or run over anything in my way.
It's come to my attention that a lot of the people who end up driving these behemoth vehicles turn out to be women. I not saying they are the problem, but they sure as hell aren't part of the solution. I see it as a pychological condition.
A competition of the lowest decree. Go out and get the biggest boyfriend you can get, because he's going to protect you and kick the shit out of everyone if they mess with her.
That seems like the exact same reason why they end up behind the wheel of an F-350 Super Duty or whatever. They need the automobile that's bigger than everyone else's so it can run every one eles over if they feel threatened, and to hold a sense of personal power from the imtimidation factor due to the size of whatever they're driving.
The same however goes for guys. They feel the need to look intimidating and larger than life, mostly due to them having a wang they consider too small, so they get something huge to compensate for it. Is there a solid reason why the U.S. needs more trucks on the road than cars (which there is)?
Other than use for what they are intended for (you should know what that is) what good are they?

Comment and thoughts?

I wouldn't expect a euro to understand this. You just now picked up on this, americans have been like this since cars first came out, it's how we are. And besides our gas prices aren't nearly as high as yours, so we've never really been as concerned about it. We're the same way about our cars, our buddy gets a fast car, and we have to get a faster one, we dont care about gas mileage.

[Boss San]

Do I come off as a "Euro?" That's odd.
Although I have been through many European countries, but I was born and have lived my whole life in the Good 'Old U.S. of A.-holes. America needs to get slapped harder than Ike did Tina about how much actual oil is left on this planet. The reason people aren't concerned about it is the oil comanies don't want you to know, and most people are to dumb to look into the problem themselves.
Remember the saying "ignorance is bliss?"
This country is an adolecent in the means of how long countries have been around. The U.S. is a teenager going through puberty and is about to find out the harsh reality of life.

[jajimo]

The problem with the gigantic SUVs versus the "poser" SUVs is that most people REALLY do not need any of the room found in huge ones (such as the Seqouia, Armada, and Excursion) and rarely do they ever use them. My sister has a CRV and she uses it all time, it works a lot better than my Accord in the snow. Although, I wouldn't say the power or space provided by it is much better.

I have no problem with people who buy gigantic SUVs to deliver shit in them, or transport things for long distances (of course, there are more efficient vehicles out there), or they live down long dirt roads and know what it's like to drive a lowered Accord down them (<<< Shitty as hell). Buying an H2 for the purpose of getting coffee at Starbucks is like buying a G5 to check your email (and no I'm not a Mac user, but you get the point).

If you own a big truck/SUV, do not be surprised when you find parking to be difficult. And be even LESS surprised when you take up 2-3 parking spots (I've seen Ford F350s do this) and come out to find your truck has been fucked up by someone you pissed off. Everyone else can park in these parking spots like normal, but what the hell makes you so fucking special that you can take up more than one and force someone else to go find another one out in the middle of nowhere?

[TexasF355F1]

Originally Posted by jajimo

If you own a big truck/SUV, do not be surprised when you find parking to be difficult. And be even LESS surprised when you take up 2-3 parking spots (I've seen Ford F350s do this) and come out to find your truck has been fucked up by someone you pissed off. Everyone else can park in these parking spots like normal, but what the hell makes you so fucking special that you can take up more than one and force someone else to go find another one out in the middle of nowhere?

Blame the idiots that can't fucking drive. They are the morons, not the decent/good drivers in trucks/suvs. I never have trouble parking, unless some dumbass decides to park and park over the white line. I've seen cars take up multiple spots as well. blame the person, they can't park and if that's the case they can't drive worth a shit either.

What about lowered trucks, do you feel the same about them or trucks are truck? Just wondering.

[CiViC_GIRL]

Originally Posted by Zanark

Eh most women dont like low to the ground cars espcially older ones.

i don't mind low to the ground cars.. i like

[Boss San]

Originally Posted by Zanark

Eh most women dont like low to the ground cars espcially older ones. My mom likes suvs because shes comfortable and can sit abit high and see things. Course shes getting a reality check with the oil prices. In either case they should ban all Suv's in the states. I mean wtf is the point of them? We already have vans, pick up trucks theres no need for suvs.

What, older women or older cars? If she wants to be comfortable tell her to get a Volvo, wagen, not one of their s.u.v.'s, geez everyone has 'em for sale don't they.
Why do you have to sit up high to see things? Your supposed to be paying attention to your driving. The only reason you'd have to sit up high as it were, would be so you can see over the other big s.u.v. in front of you. The futher up you sit when you are driving also makes a blind spot right in front of you. At the risk of getting my car run over by one at a stoplight, I always have to be ready to move if one decides to go before me. I've see it happen. (I was in the car that was hit.)

[Blazing Rice]

While it is true that a vast majority of SUVs sold are intended to be status symbols, I don't tihnk it to the point where vehicles need to be 'banned'. I've driven my fare share of cars, all the way form Buicks to Mercedes, as well as a number of trucks as well. I prefer four wheel drive trucks. I like the ride quality of them and I like their abilities. I actually do drive off road for fun on weekends, my little SUV actually does get dirty. I would never buy a H2, but I would have no qualms about buying a 3/4 or 1 ton pickup as a daily driver. It's what I like.

[MagicRat]

I am amused at the gas prices these days; they are giving the big SUV drivers some just reward.
If they NEED the room, they will happily pay. However, there are lots of full size SUV drivers cursing them and wishing they had bought the downsized SUV instead.
I am also amused at how much some mid sized and smaller SUVs weigh. Back in the 80's, my 3900 lb Fleetwood was a BIG car. Now, there are lots of smaller SUVs that are much heavier than that. Where does the weight go??