Turboing an F22b2?

[drifter136]

I have a '97 Accord Lx with an F22b2 engine.

Is the f22b2 engine a decent engine to turbo? How much boost could it handle on stock internals? What about strenghtened internals? With a safe amount of boost on stock internals, what kind of horsepower increase can be expected (it's around 130hp stock)? Are turbos practical for a street car?

Turbos are mainly to increase top end horsepower, correct? So do they help acceleration at all? How do they generally effect fuel mileage?

If I would turbo it, what are recommended upgrades besides the turbo kit itself...fuel system, intake, etc.?

I think that's all for now...Thanks!!!

[drifter136]

Oh yeah, I have an automatic, yeah it sucks...anyway how do they work with autos. I've heard that for something like drag autos are better do to the quicker shifts not requireing as much respooling time or something like that, but what about for a street application?

[SiGNAL748]

Any engine i suppose would be decent to turbo assuming you build it properly.

Although at this point i would suggest to you an h22a swap.

[grimple1]

boost, i'd say 8psi on the safe side. Greddy sells an f22 kit that runs at 7 (or is it 6)psi. Turbonetics sells one that runs at 8psi.

strengthened internals? well sky is the limit bro. how much $$ and time you wanna spend?

a turbo kit will run u about 3-4k if you buy the completed kit.. possibly more.

h22a swap will cost you just 3-4k just for the engine swap. it's gonna run at even less boost then the f22 (in stock form) bc of it's higher compression ratio.

go search through the accord forums the f22 is commonly talked aout in there. also, try these other accord websites for more info.

www.accordinglydone.com
www.honda-tech.com

GL

[grimple1]

there's multiple cars that have turbos from the factory... VWs, Eclipse, Talons, Subarus, Toyotas, Neons.... a turbo car is no less street worthy then any other car. A car with a stupidly fast spooling turbo is the only exception. At that point it just becomes undrive/controll-able.

[SiGNAL748]

I'm saying h22 because it'll have approximately the same power as a boosted 6 or 7 psi f22.

The h22 also has more potential, it being dohc and having more power to begin with. boost the h22, and you can reach greater heights than a boosted f22 would be able to obtain.

you can by the h22 at hmotorsonline for 1950, w/out tranny - yours will bolt up to the h22 just fine (although it'd be smart to go ahead and add the $300 bucks for the lsd 5spd)

You don't need to buy the whole 2200 complete changover, as this isn't going to be a hybrid swap and many of your accord parts will work on the h22. also, no need to swap mounts.

if you still want to turbo your f22..by all means do it, its your car.

this is just my

[drifter136]

So it would only be an additional $300 to do the auto to manual tranny conversion if done at time of swap? How much would a tranny swap be if done seperately? There are two things I regret about my car...not a manual and drum brakes in the rear...more importantly is the manual as the drums still get the job done.

I know that most people seem to swap JDM H22's...are they better, is it just harder to find a USDM, do most of the USDM's already have high miles, etc.?

With the JDM's, do you have to worry about emissions, or as long as you have a good cat and exhaust system will it be fine? Eventhough the site says that the USDM is 10hp and 5lbs. torque less than the JDM, would it be better to go with the USDM? What are the odds of finding a working one on a Prelude at a junk yard and if found what all parts out of the Prelude would be needed for the engine swap and tranny conversion?

Sorry for so many questions, but so far I am getting helpful answers from all of you...so thank you.

[SiGNAL748]

lets just say if you bought a regular h22 manual tranny, an aftermarket lsd alone would run you about 800 bucks.

I believe there is some type of conversion for the accord using the prelude's rear discs - but don't quote me on that, its just a guess, seeing as the accord and the prelude have a LOT in common.

It seems as if most people swap JDM h22's because those are the ones that are more readily available.

And i'm assuming as long as you have a well functioning cat, you can pass emissions with the jdm motor - again don't quote me on that. I suppose it *might* be better to go USDM if you don't have to go through far lengths to get one. If one lands in your lap, by all means take it.

You should be able to find a prelude at a junkyard pretty easy, although most of the 4th gens you will find are Si's (h23). If you can, look for a 5th gen prelude.

I think you can contact hmotorsonline on what exact parts will be needed for the swap.

Hope I've helped, and Good Luck.