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Old 05-24-2004, 03:01 AM
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Do you think pornography is anti-satisfactory?

If you look at how it has changed over the past 60 years from pin up models with their tops off lying on fluffy sheets with soft flowing hair... I guess you can just picture a movie where a guy 50 years ago in the military is looking at a calendar or something in his sleeping quarters.

If you really think about it, when you first looked at porn it was probably just something like playboy or tops exposed type thing or maybe something accidental. Is that where it stops though? Not usually, it usually leads to more hardcore pornography and so on. The pornography industry today is huge. Some might say it's even on MTV now, you have music videos with people bumping and grinding with barely any clothing on, lesbian kisses etc. Recently it seems it keeps "needing" to get harder and harder and harder, then harder and harder hardcore sex. People today are doing crazy insane sexual things that probably aren't normal or meant-to-be. I'm sure you all can think of some picture you've seen that would give you that idea right now, one some of you want to forget:P Then the question is raised, is pornography anti-satisfactory. If you keep needing harder and harder hardcore sex, then is it really satisfactory? Like a drug, after a while you may need more and more to get a high.

I was talking to a person about the subject a while ago. He told me "No, pornography is not anti-satisfactory. And no matter how you like it, it's going to escelate to the point where prostitution is legalized all over." I never mentioned it to him, but I felt he answered the question "yes" without knowing it.
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Old 05-24-2004, 05:04 AM
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Re: Do you think pornography is anti-satisfactory?

You can never satisfy the hunger of the beast. In this case the beast is the need for porn. I heard a woman on NPR that was in the porn industry who is now running an aids testing facility for porn stars who said porn is getting more and more hard core because that's what the public demands. She also said that that's the cause of most of the spread of aids in that industry. Reguardless of what she said I believe it needs to get harder and more outlandish in order to satisfy. That's the nature of anything addicting.
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Old 05-24-2004, 09:34 AM
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Re: Do you think pornography is anti-satisfactory?

I don't consider porn to be a drug because then The simpsons, Family Guy and other types of shows, movies, can be called addicting because many view it on a regular basis. It's controllable, not like if they stop making movies, magazines that thousands of porn addicts will start raping women to satusfy their need of sex...thats just crazy talk
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Old 05-24-2004, 11:22 AM
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Re: Re: Do you think pornography is anti-satisfactory?

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I don't consider porn to be a drug because then The simpsons, Family Guy and other types of shows, movies, can be called addicting because many view it on a regular basis. It's controllable, not like if they stop making movies, magazines that thousands of porn addicts will start raping women to satusfy their need of sex...thats just crazy talk

Well, the people addicted to porn usually have crappy sexual lives... they can't get off with a woman with normal sex, they need to see whatever fetish gets them off. That's when it becomes a problem.
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Old 05-24-2004, 11:56 AM
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Well, the people addicted to porn usually have crappy sexual lives... they can't get off with a woman with normal sex, they need to see whatever fetish gets them off. That's when it becomes a problem.
And people who watch reality tv have crappy overall lives??? I think you mean to say that peolpe who can't stop watchnig porn have crappy sex lives, because couples can watch porn together, stimulates them both. If women were to give in everytime a man needs some, there would be a lot of empyt kitchens...so in order to keep the balance between satusfying your hunger and your hunger for sex, porn comes in j/k. But the part about most women not having the same sexual appetite as men is true though, which is why porn was herem, I think?
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Re: Re: Do you think pornography is anti-satisfactory?

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I don't consider porn to be a drug because then The simpsons, Family Guy and other types of shows, movies, can be called addicting because many view it on a regular basis. It's controllable, not like if they stop making movies, magazines that thousands of porn addicts will start raping women to satusfy their need of sex...thats just crazy talk
Sure some of these shows(Simpsons etc...) are mildly addicting. You like to laugh at them and you enjoy their antics. Porn is something all together different. Porn is about sex. Sex is a huge part of what drives most people. Sex is doing a lot more than stimulating your funny bone if you get what I mean. Do a quick search and see what most psycologist(sp?) say about it. Porn addiction is extremely powerful . It is a form of sexual addiction.
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Old 05-24-2004, 04:38 PM
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Re: Do you think pornography is anti-satisfactory?

you'd be surprised to know that it IS addicting... just try to not look at porn anymore... none. just see how hard it is, ofcourse if you are married and can have sex it is way easier, but anyone that has looked at porn for some time now will have trouble stopping.

why do you think porn is one of the biggest industries in the world? why is heffner so rich? people can't get enough porn, it takes more and more to satisfy them, thats why women get raped, thats why there prostitutes. my mind draws a blank on the guy that raped women, killed them, had sex with their dead bodies then ate them, but I watched an interview with him and he talked about how it all started with porn, he got addicted and just wanted more and more till it got totally out of control

I've read stories about men that lose there families because they can't stop looking at porn...


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Re: Re: Re: Re: Do you think pornography is anti-satisfactory?

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If women were to give in everytime a man needs some, there would be a lot of empyt kitchens...so in order to keep the balance between satusfying your hunger and your hunger for sex, porn comes in
no, if men could just learn to control their sex drives then there would be no need for porn, and women wouldn't get raped all the time.
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no, if men could just learn to control their sex drives then there would be no need for porn, and women wouldn't get raped all the time.
That part was a joke. Sure you can say that sex drives us, but we can have the same argument with video games...an innocent child likes to play games where it comes to the point where he really wants to try it and then he kills someone and continues for the pleasure of it all while thinking it's nuttin but a game.
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Old 05-24-2004, 04:45 PM
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Re: Do you think pornography is anti-satisfactory?

Porn or sexual activity CAN be a drug, but not Family guy or the Simpsons...Y, because there is physiological responses to the stimuli, just as there are to chemicals (Drugs). Does it not provide a Euphorea? An "Ecstacy" if you will. There are no chemical reactions in your body from watchin family guy.
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Re: Re: Do you think pornography is anti-satisfactory?

Cry me a river folks. People say sex/porn is an addiction so they don't have to feel guilty about it (it's an addiction, it's not like I can really help it)
I also think that the idea that porn is getting more and more hardcore is a myth. I'll admit right away, that I'm not a porn expert, but I'm sure if we had one here, they'd probably be saying that the "soft" stuff outsells the hardcore stuff.
And that porn is responsible for "rape" is utter bull shit. Studies have shown, that those who look at porn, are LESS likely to have sex, because they are LESS likely to want sex - their sexual desires and fantasies haveing already been taken care of for them, by their pornography. People may blame porn, but this is most likely them trying to push the responsiblity off of themselves ("I couldn't help it - porn made me do it! no, wait the devil made me do!" - why would you trust the words of a psycho murderer anyway?)
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Re: Do you think pornography is anti-satisfactory?

I'm not using it as an excuse, I don't look at porn anymore, sure I have and I used to, but no ones making excuses for why they look at porn, its a chemical response in the body, and the more you look at porn the more you think about naked chics or sex throughout the day.

oh and studies have shown that seeing a naked picture can stay in your head for 20 years! as in you can mentally picture it for up to 20 years, ofcourse not everything lasts that long and not for every person, but basically its saying it can last for a long time
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Re: Re: Do you think pornography is anti-satisfactory?

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I'm not using it as an excuse, I don't look at porn anymore, sure I have and I used to, but no ones making excuses for why they look at porn, its a chemical response in the body, and the more you look at porn the more you think about naked chics or sex throughout the day.

oh and studies have shown that seeing a naked picture can stay in your head for 20 years! as in you can mentally picture it for up to 20 years, ofcourse not everything lasts that long and not for every person, but basically its saying it can last for a long time
Liar! If thats so true then why do people visit the same porn sites more than once??? jk
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Re: Re: Re: Do you think pornography is anti-satisfactory?

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Cry me a river folks. People say sex/porn is an addiction so they don't have to feel guilty about it (it's an addiction, it's not like I can really help it)
I don't think anyone on here said that. I'm not addicted to porn yet I still think it's an addiction. Just like any other addiction it needs to be broken.


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I also think that the idea that porn is getting more and more hardcore is a myth. I'll admit right away, that I'm not a porn expert, but I'm sure if we had one here, they'd probably be saying that the "soft" stuff outsells the hardcore stuff. And that porn is responsible for "rape" is utter bull shit. Studies have shown, that those who look at porn, are LESS likely to have sex, because they are LESS likely to want sex - their sexual desires and fantasies haveing already been taken care of for them, by their pornography.
Studies? What studies?


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The Economist magazine (for those who don't know, its like Newsweek but with more of an international outlook) recently reported the American porn movie industry (at $3.15 billion) generates more revenue than the mainstream Hollywood moive industry (at $3 billion).

It's so huge because so many people want to see it. Does this mean its socially acceptable?
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