Revelations and the End of the World?

[2Slow4U_Noob]

I just thought of this when reading that post on the New Testament..I remember taking a bible class one time on Revelations, the last book in the bible, and this is really the only bible class I really enjoyed. It had all kinds of crazy stuff and it gave you that wierd feeling when they talked about all the end of the world signs and how some of them have come true already. It was also very interesting to see how this chapter tied all the other chapters together by making references to past events that happend in the bible even though this chapter was written way before the bible was published. Anyone else ever read revelations? What did you think? It's been forever since Iv read it so I can't remember all the end of the world signs. Does anyone know what they are?

[Raz_Kaz]

Originally Posted by 2Slow4U_Noob

I just thought of this when reading that post on the New Testament..I remember taking a bible class one time on Revelations, the last book in the bible, and this is really the only bible class I really enjoyed. It had all kinds of crazy stuff and it gave you that wierd feeling when they talked about all the end of the world signs and how some of them have come true already. It was also very interesting to see how this chapter tied all the other chapters together by making references to past events that happend in the bible even though this chapter was written way before the bible was published. Anyone else ever read revelations? What did you think? It's been forever since Iv read it so I can't remember all the end of the world signs. Does anyone know what they are?

I have never read the Bible or any of it's other books, but I would liek to read Nastradamus' predictions...

[Soyo]

Originally Posted by Raz_Kaz

I have never read the Bible or any of it's other books, but I would liek to read Nastradamus' predictions...

acctually about 90% or more of Nastradamus' predictions have been proven wrong or coinsadence, so why read it? why not read the Bible instead? not even .00001% of it can be proven wrong... why read a lie when you can learn the truth?

[2Slow4U_Noob]

I had a feeling nostrodamus would be brought up ..iv only heard of some stuff he said that came true...but im always amazed though when people do like specials on the history channel and stuff proving that events in the bible actually happen..those are awesome..they also give me that wierd feeling

[Raz_Kaz]

Yea nostradamus' predictions are false, but still interesting to read...I would read the Bible If I had time....

[2strokebloke]

acctually about 90% or more of Nastradamus' predictions have been proven wrong or coinsadence, so why read it? why not read the Bible instead? not even .00001% of it can be proven wrong... why read a lie when you can learn the truth?

Wow! BS. Just like in the Bible, plenty can be proven or disproven depending on how you choose to interpret it.
One could easily write off revelations as a bunch of balogna if they wanted to - easily. I'm not suggesting that Nostradamus' predictions are any more worth while than those in the Bible. (like anything, if you really, really, want it to be true, you can prove it - or you can simply discount it as garbage)
I haven't read revelation in a long time, but so far, I believe the world should have ended several times.
Supposedly, evil is going to grow immensely before the end times, but we've had several periods in history far more evil than anything currently happening, and yet everybody keeps saying that end is near. sigh.

[DGB454]

It's not just about evil in the world. There is a sequence of events that lead up to the end times. Many of the predictions in Revelations and those in Daniel along with others scattered throughout the Bible are very precise and can only be interpreted one way. The best way to study these predictions is to get a concordence of the Bible so you can easily look up the original Hebrew meanings of some of the words. It's amazing how certain words and phrases have changed and taken on new meanings today.

[Soyo]

Originally Posted by 2strokebloke

Wow! BS. Just like in the Bible, plenty can be proven or disproven depending on how you choose to interpret it.
One could easily write off revelations as a bunch of balogna if they wanted to - easily. I'm not suggesting that Nostradamus' predictions are any more worth while than those in the Bible. (like anything, if you really, really, want it to be true, you can prove it - or you can simply discount it as garbage)
I haven't read revelation in a long time, but so far, I believe the world should have ended several times.
Supposedly, evil is going to grow immensely before the end times, but we've had several periods in history far more evil than anything currently happening, and yet everybody keeps saying that end is near. sigh.

sorry but no, you can't prove the Bible wrong, not one tiny tiny part of it, just because all of revelation hasn't come to be yet doesn't mean its false, and you can't just say well the holocaust was bad and the world didn't end so the Bible is wrong... you have to look at things in the Bible and the order they come about, and no one knows when the world will end, the Bible even says that it will be at an unexpected time, God's people will be taken to heaven an the anti-christ will take over the world... then it goes on with more about the final battle and such, but I won't get into that

most of Nostradamus' predictions have been proven to be false or coinsadences, nothing in the Bible has been, so theres no comparison

Left Behind is a good movie that shows the basics of how the end of the world MIGHT be, ofcourse no one knows exactly but its easier than reading it if you don't wanna read...

[eversio11]

Originally Posted by Soyo

sorry but no, you can't prove the Bible wrong, not one tiny tiny part of it,

yeah, it works the same way around, too. you can't prove anything in the bible took place either.

[CarSuperfreak]

Actually, there exists some scientific evidence that coinincide with Biblical events. One such event is that scientist have followed time backwards, and have found there there is a 12-hour discrepancy in the orbit of the sun (or something like that) which could be explained by the day the "sun stood still": to aide the Israelites defeat the Babylonians (i think it was the babylonians)

[Jay!]

Originally Posted by CarSuperfreak

Actually, there exists some scientific evidence that coinincide with Biblical events. One such event is that scientist have followed time backwards, and have found there there is a 12-hour discrepancy in the orbit of the sun (or something like that) which could be explained by the day the "sun stood still": to aide the Israelites defeat the Babylonians (i think it was the babylonians)

Link to source, please?

[2strokebloke]

sorry but no, you can't prove the Bible wrong, not one tiny tiny part of it,

Errr, let's not say anything that will destroy our credibility. Find me evidence of Jesus multiplying bread and fish. You can't, if it did happen, it was eaten. Does that mean it didn't happen? not necessarily, but can you provwe that it did in fact happen - no way.

[Soyo]

things in the Bible can be proven, I'm not about to get into a whole thread about this, read the thread that is 23 pages long at the moment because me and some other people have covered tons of things... anyways you can't prove the Bible wrong, I'll give you my car if you can prove something in the Bible wrong, it CAN NOT be done, although many events have been proven, but like I said, I'm not going over this all over again... if you have any questions for me you can always PM me and I'll see what I can do

[2strokebloke]

And I'm asking you, what you would do to prove that Jesus did this? To say that nothing in the Bible can't be proven wrong is impossible - because when things are physically impossible, the Bible simply leans back on the idea that they were supernatural, and that's all the explanation you need.
For instance, (errgh, forgetting the name right now) when the man was picked up by a fiery charriot and taken to heaven... physically impossible. You can't ride in a charriot made of fire to heaven, you can't even really build a charriot out of fire. the only explanation doesn't involve actual proof, so it's really up to the reader to decide whether or not this is true.

[DGB454]

Weren't we talking about end time prophesy? I think most of this other stuff has been covered. If not completely then we should take it up on another thread instead of messing up 2slows' thread.
JMO