Bugatti not a driver's car . . .

[i_rebel]

Personal opinion I know . . . but this car is so exclusive, it may as well not be made.

This is strictly for collecting and for auto shows . . . has any body ever known someone to even aspire to owning a Bugatti ?

Not I said the Rebel . . . give me a Lotus V8 . . .!

[Hudson]

There's a problem with a car being exclusive? That's a first.

I've seen a number of Bugattis in person. Most of them are driven the way they were intended to be driven...hard. Almost all Bugattis, except for the Type 41 and some Type 57s, were performance cars of their day. Even the "reincarnated" EB110 was an excellent performance car and driven in a few races.

[Moppie]

Hey i_reble :finger:

Bugatti is one of the oldest sports car marques out there and can be compared with Ferrari and Lamborgni in terms of driving experiance and performance. Of course thier a drivers car, just because a car is VERY rare donst mean its not exhilerating to drive.

[i_rebel]

I'm not downing exclusivity . . . nor am I trying to say that the Bugatti does not perform.

I'm saying that a Bugatti owner/purchaser is porbably going to be a car collector . . . and will buy the car ONLY to add to the collection.

While it may be driven on a RARE OCCASIONAL basis, it's not the kind of car that a car DRIVER will buy . . . a car COLLECTOR maybe . . . but not a car DRIVER.

There is a difference between the two.

Hudson: I've not seen your name before . . . welcome to the forums.

Moppie: You've got a comprehension problem

Let's make this thread interesting . . . why don't one of you tell me the average selling price of a brand new Bugatti . . . or just MSRP for that matter, we'll pick up from there . . .

[enzo@af]

I aspire to getting a Bugatti...but I want an EB110, not the Veyron.

[Hudson]

Rebel: Thanks for the greeting!

There are currently no Bugatti models in production. The last one was the EB110 which sold for $300-400k. It was a drivers car...and purchased as such...just like Lamborghinis and Ferraris.

Most owners of older Bugattis do collect them, since the newest of the older Bugs are no younger than 50 years old. Many of these owners actually do push their cars, even as old as they are. Go to any vintage event and you'll see some Type 35s really moving.

[gang$tarr]

i kinda agree with i_rebel...... like how many bugattis do you see on the road? and since i don't think that they produce very many they would be a highly prized collectors car..... not a driving enthusiusts car like a porsche

[Hudson]

As I said, they haven't built ANY Bugattis since 1995. The total number of Bugatti EB110s built were 149. Prior to that, Bugatti hadn't built any cars since the 1950s. Total production of Bugatti since 1912 is about 8,000.

This is a good reason why you don't see any on the street. Ford makes almost 5 times that many Explorers EACH MONTH!

[gang$tarr]

and that's exactly why it's a collectors car, because they're so rare collectors like buying them..... so that the car can sit in their showroom and they can polish it, not drive it (hard)

[vectorclub]

http://www.eb110.com/eb/engindex.html

Dauer has bought the tooling to continue building the EB110. If you have a few hundred thousand burning a hole in your pocket you can buy one.

As far as being a Driver's car, don't assume someone would not drive it often. Look at Jay Leno, he drives very rare cars on public road ways all of the time. I know a guy who has a Vector W8 (only 19 made) drives his car when ever it is running. Often it has issues.

I am not a fan of the front end styling of the EB110, but it was a car that could keep up with just about anything. The creation of cars like these adds variety to world of cars. The styling and technology from this car may find its way into more economical cars down the road.

If I owned one and could afford the insurance, I would drive it. I would just worry about people running into my car as they drive down the freeway looking at the car rather then where they are on the road. My buddy in his Vector W8 has had some close calls because the drivers around him where not driving, just looking at his car as they cruised at 80mph.

[dejoux]

You obviously havnt been in the right places then, even here where there is about 4 bugattis (moppie am i about right) in the whole country Ive seen one driven in anger. Theres a guy in ChCh who owns a Type 35 and another saloon (and an F40 and a testarossa and a whole heeap of other stuff) and he drives it. Its just that they are so rare that you are unlikely to see one at all. If you see one drving hard itll be against other old cars or in ahistorical hil;l climb or something, not being taken down to buy some bread

[Moppie]

Originally posted by dejoux
You obviously havnt been in the right places then, even here where there is about 4 bugattis (moppie am i about right)

I dont know? I know there is at least 1 original car (in southwards), and at least one special based on a Bugatti.

The problem is there rarity, anything rare attracts the attention of collectors and so, many Bugattis do get locked up in private musems. But this in no way reflects on thier ablity as a drivers car, or on thier desire as a drivers car. There are many that are driven, and driven hard on a regular basis by people with a passion for driving and enough money to afford them.

Just becuase a car is collectable dosnt mean its not a drivers car, under that reasoning then almost every pre 1980 Ferrari and certainly every pre 1980 Lamborghini would cease to be a drivers car.

[Chris]

Many of them do get placed in museums. But a lot of people drive them HARD!! Just like the glory days, they are screaming to their redline (which really isnt that high), and cornering and breaking, etc, etc.

[gang$tarr]

It's such a nice car... I know I'd drive it hard as long as i could keep it away from those pesky collectors

[vectorclub]

It's such a nice car... I know I'd drive it hard as long as i could keep it away from those pesky collectors

It is a good thing the world has those "pesky" collectors. Having a mix of drivers and collectors help keep them on the road and keep some for the future generations to see. Museums can help people to learn about great automobiles. I know I benefited greatly from seeing the Blackhawk Automotive Museum, the old Harrah's collection, Nethercut Collection, Towe Museum, Petersen Museum, and San Diego Auto Museum. All of these museums offer cars that many have never seen. In the case of the Blackhawk Automotive Museum they present the cars in a style that brings out the artistic side of the automobile.

Many Bugatti's would be recycled scrap metal by now if it was not for some of those "pesky" collectors. We can only hope the world will have a good balance of collectors and drivers.