streetable?

[bigbob]

hey fellas, i was just curious to see what you all think "streetable" really is. how much power is to much to be on the road. i was jokin with my buddy whos car is faster than mine and i told him to wait till mine has a blower and nitrous{ not really intended} and he said reah like u can drive that on the road. i think that would defiantly be safe. when i thing of unsafe for roads i think of a hemi cuda with 800 hp and wheely bars.

[stang_racer20]

No such thing as unsafe power levels on the road. It really depend on what type of motor combo, power/torque levels, tires and suspension. Say a 306 with a Novi 2000 blower and a 50 shot of nos,, I'd say thats plenty streetable.

[bigbob]

thast is what i thought thanks

[HiFlow5 0]

Nitrous and a blower are very streetable, if set up correctly on the proper motor. But if you have a big cam, extremely steep gears, or a strictly drag set up among others would make for a very unpleasant daily driver.

[rerun]

"streetable" purly rests on the driver.. can he/she handle all the power? do they like it to comfy? do they like to be unique, or with the crowd? do they have enough money to replace "race" parts that don't last very long? can they stand the fact that when they push in the pedal 1" they will go faster than most stock cars floored?... thoughs questions must be answered to really get a truthfull answer

[68chevelle]

i dont think that "streetable" has much to do with the driver. yes it doesnt but not that much. if they cant handle it that just means they cant drive it. streetable usualy refers to the car, not the driver. im my opinion it is wether the car can actualy stay running in around town conditions. will it idle and stay running without babying it. does it have a stall that is so hi you have to rev it way up before it moves, (usualy above 2500 is to much for stree), but that part is only for autos. just stuff like that. basicaly everything hiflow5 0 said. the cam, gears, and trans have alot more to do with it than the driver. atleast thats my opinion.

[boosted331]

Driver has way, way, way more to do with how "streetable" a car is than what parts are in it. You can have a kid in a stock 5.0 with gears that can't handle the car on the street, and you can have people in 1000 RWHP TT vettes that are fine to drive it on the street. It all comes down to the maturity and capabilities of the driver.

[68chevelle]

Driver has way, way, way more to do with how "streetable" a car is than what parts are in it. You can have a kid in a stock 5.0 with gears that can't handle the car on the street, and you can have people in 1000 RWHP TT vettes that are fine to drive it on the street. It all comes down to the maturity and capabilities of the driver.

lol. maybe thats your opinion cuz you have never been or seen a car that is camed so much and built so much that it has poor idle quality at say 850RPM's, im more talking about a old muscle car here, and also a car that is built for the strip only. but the thing that doesnt make sence is that you just said "a stock 5.0 with gears", to me that means, because you metioned them, that the gears are what is causing it to be unstreetable for him. so thats the parts that are in the car not the driver. meaning that if it had stock gears that he would be able to drive it. thats the parts not the driver. and the power leves dont have anything to do with something being streetable, especialy when your talking about turbos. i can make a chevy V8 283 with 200 HP less streetable than a 1000WHP twin turbo vet, all with the cam. give any cam enough duration and it wont be streetable at all. if it comes down to the maturity and capability of the driver isnt that the drivers abilty to drive not for the car to be streetable. yes you can put the same car in two different peoples hands and one can drive it with no problems and the other one spins out all the time and cant drive very well but thats all driver skill and brain. not the car. when you say streetable that the ability of a car to be driven on the streets. not the ability of a person to drive a car on the streets. go ask someone who drives a funny car if there car is streetable and then when they say no ask them why. i bet you they wont say because they cant handle the car. they will say something like because it dones stear very well or it is a rough ride or it doesnt idle well and the brakes arnt the best. all having to do with the parts on the car not the driver ability. cuz i guaranty you that a funny car driver can hadle there car very well, yet it cant be driven on the street. now obveously its not street legal but thats beside the point.

[duplox]

I would have to say it is almost all about the driver. any car in decent mechanical shape CAN physically be driven on the street. It just depends on if the driver wants to deal with the car's characteristic on the street. I have a 69 mustang, so I know what you're saying about muscle cars. My friends can't drive the car, it just handles and is controlled SO much differently than any other car they've experienced. If you're willing to put up with an engine at 4000rpms at 70mph, if you're willing to put of with a spooled rear end, if you're willing to put up with a high stall, if you're willing to deal with a high/rough idle, then yes most any car can be streetable(obviously not funny cars...). But I think its all in what the driver wants to/is able to put up with. I have a twin turbo'd 351c, I'm guessing around 450hp at the wheels. It has a spooled rear end, fairly steep gears(3.73s, but I swapped them in when I turbo'd it, it used to have around 4.20 gears), a full manual C4 auto tranny with a 3500 stall, 5 leaf rear springs with caltracs, roll bar, custom made sheetmetal dash... I know a lot of people would say its just too much, its not streetable.. but I drive it all the time. 100% street. Sure I burn a lot of gas and a lot of tires(the spool does a number on the tires around the corners!), but I still drive it several times a week, and have no complaints(except maybe about the fuzz). Most of the fun of driving the car is knowing how to deal with all of this. Once you know your car well enough and all its mannerisms, its just as easy to drive for you than any other car. "too much power" isnt an issue, if you dont want to use all the power, don't put the pedal to the floor! Just my opinion though.. everyone is entitles to their own.

[rerun]

just because the motor blows every couple of miles, or if its turning radius is 60feet does NOT mean that it can't be streetable. just because it is HARD to drive on the street, does not mean that it can't be done. hell, i know a guy on the 'net that drives a 67FB with a 429 - 4.11 locker and a cam with numbers north of .640 and tires like 425 drag radials and 195s up front everyday on the street. even my car with a "little" 289 - a cam with .524 and .544 lift, 4.11s, and 2 holleys up top thats gonna stall like a bitch at a light doesn't mind me....

if i told you about vehicle that weighed about 100,000 pounds had over 600hp and 1000s ftlb's of torque.. would you think that it was streetable? what about if it could go a million miles without an overhaul. would you beleve me? i think not..

[boosted331]

Originally Posted by 68chevelle

lol. maybe thats your opinion cuz you have never been or seen a car that is camed so much and built so much that it has poor idle quality at say 850RPM's, im more talking about a old muscle car here, and also a car that is built for the strip only. but the thing that doesnt make sence is that you just said "a stock 5.0 with gears", to me that means, because you metioned them, that the gears are what is causing it to be unstreetable for him. so thats the parts that are in the car not the driver. meaning that if it had stock gears that he would be able to drive it. thats the parts not the driver. and the power leves dont have anything to do with something being streetable, especialy when your talking about turbos.

Sorry, this one paragraph is probably the dumbest thing i've ever seen.

For starters, I have built, driven, and rode in LOTS of rough running cars. My last mustang had an 11.5:1 408 with a 266/260 .672/.688 solid roller, CNC ported AFR 225's, a super victor with a 1" spacer, 1000 CFM CSU 4150 holley, and a C4 with a 5000 stall. It barely idled at 1300, didn't pull enough vacuum to run power brakes, and I still drove it 4 days a week when the weather was nice, so don't tell me streetability only has to do with parts.

Back to my 5.0 with gears example. So if driver has nothing to do with it, then nobody could handle a stock 5.0 with some 3.73's? Right.

This is the best part, right here. "and the power leves dont have anything to do with being streetable" Yeah, you're right. If you're driving an 800 RWHP YSI-Trimmed, 383 mustang you can drive it just like you would your stock fox body with a 2.3. You don't have to take it easy on the throttle, don't have to worry about leaving the stop light without spinning hard, you can just mash the throttle if you're coming up to a light that's turning yellow and get through it no problem, right? Give me a break, and lay off the drugs before you try and make posts.

[68chevelle]

ok well to duplox, very good points. if someone wants to put up with anything then it can be done.

now to rerun. i never said anything cant be driven on the street. basicaly i was arguing to what the deffinintion of streetable is.

now for the fun one. boosted....
first of all, if you want to make a comment about me and drugs again, i will make a specia trip up to canada just for you. i never have done drugs and i never plan on it. i am very offended by that comment. incase you didnt get it... DO NOT DO IT AGAIN. i did not say anything about you personaly so i would sugjest not saying anything about me.

now back to the discusion. you obveously didnt get what i was saying about the kid and the 5.0. your words... " You can have a kid in a stock 5.0 with gears that can't handle the car on the street,", now first of all its not stock if it has gears. but what i ment was, asuming that the kid could handle a stock 5.0, (witch i never said he couldnt), you make it seem as though in your example the kid can not handle a 5.0 that has gears. that means that because of the gears, the kid can not handle it. but if it was stock then he could. now the difference there is the gears. the only thing that changes to make him not handle it was the gears. so that would mean it is something in the car that makes it unstreetable for him. if you dont get that then read it over a few times. it might start to make sence.

For starters, I have built, driven, and rode in LOTS of rough running cars. My last mustang had an 11.5:1 408 with a 266/260 .672/.688 solid roller, CNC ported AFR 225's, a super victor with a 1" spacer, 1000 CFM CSU 4150 holley, and a C4 with a 5000 stall. It barely idled at 1300, didn't pull enough vacuum to run power brakes, and I still drove it 4 days a week when the weather was nice, so don't tell me streetability only has to do with parts.

blah blah blah... i never said it ONLY had to do with parts did i? maybe you should reread everything i said again cuz you seem to not be getting alot of it. and i give you props for driving a car with a 5000 stall converter on the street. im sure it must have been interesting. but i do find that hard to believe. a 5000 stall is kinda high unless its for drag only and built like hell. and if the stall is at 5000 then why try to make it idle at 1300, you still have atleast 3000 rpms before you start to move so you could bump it up a little to make it idle better. by the way just incase you still want to argue. I SAID IT WAS MY OPINION, and i also said that was yours. you want to try to change my mind, well your not going to. as im sure you arnt going to change yours, but thats not what my post was designed to do. it was designed to state my opinion.

[rerun]

before we all start acting like little girls on the play ground when some big kid took our skipping rope lets just look at this.

this question is blantly an opinion question without a doubt. what you may think in not streetable. it could be to someone else. thats why i say it is up the driver. because when it comes down to it you may not think that having to rev to 4k before going to not streetable. but there a hell of a lot guys that really don't care. so, if you really think about it streetable is just a pointless word that does not have any importance..

[HiFlow5 0]

Originally Posted by rerun

before we all start acting like little girls on the play ground when some big kid took our skipping rope lets just look at this.

this question is blantly an opinion question without a doubt. what you may think in not streetable. it could be to someone else. thats why i say it is up the driver. because when it comes down to it you may not think that having to rev to 4k before going to not streetable. but there a hell of a lot guys that really don't care. so, if you really think about it streetable is just a pointless word that does not have any importance..

Definitely!
Like my car for example, I drive it every day and don't have any problems. But if my girlfriend drives it, she's very uncomfortable with the way it handles.