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Old 05-15-2004, 01:28 AM
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SL to VR4?

I was wondering if i could swap my SL engine for a VR4 twin-turbo engine. Will it fit to the SL tranny? Will it fit in the car in general? What all do i nee dto do to get it to run properly and fast? Thanks.
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Old 05-15-2004, 08:44 PM
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I was wondering if i could swap my SL engine for a VR4 twin-turbo engine. Will it fit to the SL tranny? Will it fit in the car in general? What all do i nee dto do to get it to run properly and fast? Thanks.
Honestly I have to say f*ck it, it's totally expensive I mean way out there. When I had my base 3000GT I thought about doing that, but it's way to expensive, the engine alone is like $10,000 and then there is the tranny and alot of other stuff, just not going to happend. Then I looked into getting a custom turbo for my base model, again it's expensive and really not worth it. So in the end I traded in my base for a VR4, and it was 100% the right choice, and I would recommend it for you if just have to have a lot more power like I did.
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Old 05-16-2004, 11:23 AM
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Re: SL to VR4?

the engine is definitely not $10,000 is it
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Engine would prolly be around 2-3k range, 10,000? no.
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Old 05-21-2004, 07:58 PM
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so does the VR4 motor fit on the SL tranny? and would everything go on right and fit right if i got the vr4 motor and dropped it? thanks
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Ok so find me a price for the VR4 engine? That was the price I was looking at when I thought about making the switch, $8,000-$10,000, it's not cheap believe me (but this was like 5 years ago, so the price might be chaeper now). Still I must ask you, are you saying $2,000 to $3,000 because you know or because that's just what you think? If you know please share and where you got the info, prices may change in 5 years and I'd be interested to see by how much. I know of nobody and/or haven't heard anybody do the VR4 engine swap into SL, I'm sure if the price was only $2,000-$3,000 there would be somebody. I have heard of turbo SLs, but no VR4 swaps. Here is you answer, anything is possible if you have the money and are willing to spend the money, you could make a GEO Metro run 9 seconds if you were willing to spend the money, the point is are you willing to spend that kind of money? Most people say no, I say no is a good answer. Just buy a VR4.
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Re: SL to VR4?

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so does the VR4 motor fit on the SL tranny? and would everything go on right and fit right if i got the vr4 motor and dropped it? thanks
Perhaps this will help this guy had a great answer.

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Look at the engine bay of the 3G. Much smaller engine bay. Take a look at the TT engine for the 6G72 in the 3K GT VR4. Now compare that with your 6G72 in the 3G. The intake manifolds are faced opposite and there is no way the twin SMIC's are going to fit.It would be much cheaper to just twin turbo what you have now.

I checked out prices and the VR4 engines for you, the engines seem to be selling from $3,000 to $5,000. But they are usually bought by other VR4 owners, there is just alot of differences, and I mean ALOT of difference between the SL and VR4, a swap is just not plausible.
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Re: SL to VR4?

Can you put a TT engine in? Yes.
Will it bolt to the FWD trans? Yes.
Is it cheap? No
Is it $10,000 probably not, but over $5000 at least.

Its probably cheaper to just buy the cast off parts from a TT owner that upgraded their turbos and TT your NA engine.

Click here for a basic run down on TT'ing an NA engine : http://www.3si.org/forum/faq.php?faq..._tt_conversion
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Re: SL to VR4?

I could find you an entire vr4 for 10 grand. I have seen the engine sold for 3k on various sites online. The entire swap does require a bit of fabrication and a few more parts than just the engine from a vr4, so you will probably need a donor car. This is not said to discourage you, many people have done TT conversions( it is definantly plausible, 3000ways, johnnybgood was refering to a 3rd gen eclipse, not an SL). But in all honesty, if you aren't capable of doing the work yourself, I would suggest just getting a vr4, to save yourself the trouble and money. If you TT an N/A you will still have FWD and therefore after you get all that power, traction will now become your enemy. So I would suggest going with the vr4, but like I said, if you have the abilities, go for it, it has been done numerous times.
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Re: SL to VR4?

your all wrong a used twin turbo 3000gt 6g72 is about 3-4 grand plus your awd and tranny accesories that need to be changed
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Re: Re: SL to VR4?

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your all wrong
Thats a rather bold statment.

I know several people that have purchased complete TT engines for abvout $2500. So if your paying 3k-4k your paying too much.


TT'ing a FWD does not require ANY AWD transmission parts so whats the point of mentioning that?
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Re: Re: SL to VR4?

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Engine would prolly be around 2-3k range, 10,000? no.
That is right mecause you can buy a brand new remanufactured engine for under 3k from orientengine.com
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Old 11-18-2004, 11:55 AM
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Re: SL to VR4?

sigh...listen to igovert...with the money you would spend on a conversion, you could sell your sl and buy a vr4...then you'll have awd, aws, active spoiler, and money leftover for a timer or w/e ur heart desires...you dont want fwd w/ twin turbos, unless you get a good lsd, and theres a couple more grand you'd have to spend. But if you wanna waste money and learn the hard way..go for it!!
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Re: Re: SL to VR4?

Wow, waste of money to TT a FWD??? Go to 3si. Go to the FWD forum and there is a FOrced induction sub forum. There are PLENTY of people running TT's in the FWD DAILY DRIVER.

Listen to alan92rttt. He knows his stuff. A FWD TT with the same mods as a VR4 will destroy it in a roll race. If the FWD adds slicks and a LSD then its ALL FWD. And a LSD is only $1000. That is with a lifetime warantee too.
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Re: Re: Re: SL to VR4?

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Wow, waste of money to TT a FWD??? Go to 3si. Go to the FWD forum and there is a FOrced induction sub forum. There are PLENTY of people running TT's in the FWD DAILY DRIVER.

Listen to alan92rttt. He knows his stuff. A FWD TT with the same mods as a VR4 will destroy it in a roll race. If the FWD adds slicks and a LSD then its ALL FWD. And a LSD is only $1000. That is with a lifetime warantee too.

wow, this thread is old

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