So 5sfe's suck right?

[91celicaFB]

Hey, so the 5sfe's suck right? Cuz everyones reccomendatoin is to swap it with a 3sgte. I have an auto tranny. What can i do?
Okay, say i get a nitrous kit or turbo... or any high hp gains for that matter, will i have to change the tranny cuz its only rated at a specific hp?
thanks.

Question summary:
1) do they suck? what can i do with 'em?
2) Need a new tranny with new horses??

thanks ppl

[Cynistah Celica]

Some people don't like the 5sfe engine because they're they like people that take steroids, want quick results with little solid work, so their first advice is to swap for a REAR JAP. ENGINE! 3SGTE. Others like me just look at the engine and demand power from it by tuning it! The 5sfe started with 130hp and there are many aftermarket products for it and they're not needles in haystacks either because I plan to get 200hp or more out of mine.........think about it! I have a list off the stuff I need for now to pretty much get there.

[MR2Driver]

Yeah, but i got 200RWHP off my 3S-GTE with a MBC, and I never got a engine swap...

[Cynistah Celica]

but that engine is supposed to give you 200bhp the 5sfe only started with 130

[ghetto7o2azn]

wuts your point? most people that are into modding start with the 3sgte because it is a better base to start with less hastle... its not considered "lazy" its just smarter.... you would probably end up spending the same amount or more to get your 5sfe to make the same amount of power the 3sgte does stock that it would be to swap in a 3sgte...

[Cynistah Celica]

MY POINT....(though it was painfully difficult to see) is that the engine dosen't suck, and if you spend time on it you can get alot more power out of it INSTEAD of just swaping to the 3SGTE.....which is quite alright if you have the money to spend on buying it and then spending some more boosting it, or if you have one just chillin in your back yard! But if you don't have one of thoes two options, then you can go ahead and tune the 5SFE that you already have! Everytime you get paid buy something else if you can afford it........That, my friend, was my point....... understand?

[turbo5sp33d]

umm what is a 5sfe? 5 speed something? I know its an engine but what does it mean? Im thinking of buying my friends 1992 toyota celica gt turbo 5 speed. more can be found on my post here http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbul....php?p=2087911
I really need some advice on if I should buy or not. I know nothing about cars, I got 2 grand and hes selling. This will be my first car so if you guys can explain the engine type and stuff I would appreciate it

[Brian R.]

A 5sfe is an engine designation. The "5" indicates it is the 5th generation series "s" engine block.

The other letters are as follows:
G - twin cam
F - economical twin cam (cams closer to each other)
T - turbocharged
Z - supercharged
E - electronic fuel injection
L - lean combustion
C - emissions package or carburated (depending on year/model)
U - passes the Japanese emission regulations
B - twin carbs

Everything you ever wanted to know about ID numbers, but were afraid to ask:
http://www.4crawler.com/4x4/ToyVIN.shtml#Engine

[turbo5sp33d]

Thanks brian I need to get up to date on cars now Oh also I replied to your question on my other post so if you could take a look at it I would apreciate it.

[Brian R.]

You're welcome