Headers

[Davecamaro86]

I'm wondering what i need for my car and the differance its going to make in hp.

SHORTS or FULL LENTH headers?????????????????

[tardster]

dont think you can get full headers on it without tearing them up, I have Hooker shorty headers on mine and they work real good, now I just need to figure out how I'm gonna do the duels.....

[ridge_runner]

i had full length, i had to beat on the bottom of the car a little bit... nothing major

[89IROC&RS]

well, in general small diameter short tube headers promote low rpm torque, but also make more hp, while large diameter long tube headers promote high rpm hp with a small sacrifice in torque. just a general rule of thumb. personally for a street car i would go with small tube shorties, oval track or dragster, long tube large diameter.

[ridge_runner]

yea i agree...

[Davecamaro86]

so shorties it is.
Now i'm goin have to get creative with the pipe work or what?

[ridge_runner]

you could use your stock pipes if you wanted

[89IROC&RS]

well, somewhere on here i did a full explination of what it took to install the edelbrock TES headers in my 89 IROC, a little time consuming, a little bit of a headache, and i have yet to figure out how to change my sparkplugs now, oh and you cant use the stock number 8 or 6 plug wires, cuz the strait boot is too long, have to use 90 degree boots on those cylenders. but other than that, im totally impressed and pleased with them.

[1992RS]

Gotta change them from undernieth. And luckaly when I put mine on I had the engine out so I dropped it with them on.

[89IROC&RS]

uh uh bro, the edelbrock headers route the primary pipes over top the plugs. no room to get a socket on the plugs, and no way to get a wrench on it. so ill have to custom modify a socket to fit. trust me ive changed my plugs before, just with these headers its a whole nuther ball game. i even sat down with the snap on truck parked there, testing socket after socket trying to get one that would work. nadda, so you gotta take a socket, that isnt a spark plug socket, drill it out so the plug will fit through it, and machine down a hex head on the end so you can put a wrench on it. fun eh?

[ridge_runner]

you could make your own tool, and sell it!

[ridge_runner]

"the edelbrock header socket"

[89IROC&RS]

im toying with the idea actually... and another AIR valve tool im working on, im gonna write snapon and see if they will be interestedin buying the rights to the patent. so well see how that goes.

[Genopsyde]

can i get a free one?

[ridge_runner]

me 2?