3rd party?

[Ace$nyper]

Ok i know its real early but i'm thinking bout it all the time so please bare with me and give me your on this
Well this 2004 election will be my first time voting for pres i'm really happy i'm able to voice my veiws but here inlies my problem. As far as i am i'm hardcore librateian. *vitcim of US school system execuse my spelling*
So with out needed to say much more i really dont want to see Kerry in office Bush either but i rather him then Kerry. So What i'm thinking is 3rd party it I'll vote libby they *other parties* seem to be gaining power and maybe helping them is my best idea or should i go with GOP just to help defeat Kerry cause I dont think Libbys will win and well Bush can use every vote he can get.
I'm torn cause I feel that i need to protect my self but i want to speak my voice. so what i'm stuck between is Someone i am so so for but stands chanse of winning VS what i beilve but probbly not a shot to win.
So anyone have any ideas to help me with my delimma?

*PS if this should be in stress area feel free to move it*

[TexasF355F1]

I think it's a good idea if you're not sure. Instead of throwing your vote away and not voting, go for the third party.

[DGB454]

I am in a similar situation. I don't want to see either Bush or Kerry win. Mostly not Kerry. So I have been looking at a third party also. I'm leaning towards Ralph but am still not sure. People tell me I am throwing away my vote. I don't listen to them because they are wrong. A vote is never thrown away. Vote for who you want to vote for because you believe he will do a better job than the person he is running against. The person you voted for may not win the election but at least you voted the way that was right for you and not someone else.

[YogsVR4]

I'm torn between the libertarians and the tax payers party. Either one is closer in line to the fiscal policies I'd like to see but their canidates are to narrowly focused.

Much like Ralph, they have some specific points of view on several topics, but the others, they have no opinions. Until these third party canidates take a stand on all major issues addressing the country, they won't appeal the broadest array of voters.

Because I approve of Bush in a broader sense then either of the other parties I mentioned, at this point, I'll be voting for him. Kerry also has a better standing with me for at least having an opinion (regardless of how often he flops around on some of them) - he just has worse fiscal and immigration proposals then Bush. Kerries stances will lead to dramatic increases in inflation. It would be ugly.

[Ace$nyper]

hmm ok thanks guys I got pleanty of time to think still but least i got somethings to think about!

[lazysmurff]

everyone pretty much covered it. im experiancing a similar situation myself. I think it is time the populace of this country got rid of the two party system, becuase its really just forced us to start choosing between the better of two equally horrible canidates. dont vote for a party, vote for a person.

[DGB454]

I agree

[Cbass]

The only way I can see a third party emerging in the US political scene is if it is internet based...

Let's face it, no mainstream media source is about to start pushing for a new party.

[Ace$nyper]

Originally Posted by Cbass

The only way I can see a third party emerging in the US political scene is if it is internet based...

Let's face it, no mainstream media source is about to start pushing for a new party.

so should i put a vote Ace$nyper in my sig?

yea i agree theres no real reason for them to i think it stinks but whats true is true.
Maybe the net is the place where it should start see a Green party or Libby pop-up here there its cheap works well lots of ppl would see it i think you really hit on something here Cbass.

[justacruiser]

Originally Posted by Ace$nyper

*vitcim of US school system execuse my spelling*

Also a victim of your parents not spending time helping you learn. The only reason I can spell and read well is because my mother helped me out every night with primer books that she purchased herself and helped me go through. It's sad to say that the school system needs to be supplemented like that, but it does, so it's up to parents to take up the slack.

PS. Third parties have made it before, where do you think the Republican party came from? Lincoln was actually their first candidate and just happened to slip by while the Democrats were fighting with each other.

[2strokebloke]

I never had problems reading, or really writing. If anything, my writing skills degraded once I got into middle school.

As for third parties, while people will tell you that you're throwing your vote away, with more candidate you need less, and less percentage of the entire populations vote - with two people, somebody has to get more than 50%, with three, somebody just needs to get more than 33%
With as close as the last election was, perhaps we need a stronger 3rd party, that more people will vote for - especially since this upcoming election's two main candidates are both such losers.

[Ace$nyper]

[quote=justacruiser]Also a victim of your parents not spending time helping you learn. The only reason I can spell and read well is because my mother helped me out every night with primer books that she purchased herself and helped me go through. It's sad to say that the school system needs to be supplemented like that, but it does, so it's up to parents to take up the slack.
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I had the same thing. Shitty schooling with no renforement thinking its more important to do other crap like teach us crappy songs instead of spelling. My reading and writing is great but spelling tends to evade me still to this date. But i dont need to rant about how much my schooling sucked long story short smart kids suffer cause there told its bad to be better. *least at my school*


See 2stroke thats what keeps getting me to think about 3rd parties is they seen to grow stronger. Well i still got time to think bout it.

[lazysmurff]

actually, im eagerly awaiting the results of the libertarians attempt to populate New Hamshire in order to achieve a foot hold in the electoral process. im not exactly a libertarian, but im rooting for them all the same,

[Jimster]

I miss MMP


'nuff said

[TexasF355F1]

Originally Posted by Jimster

I miss MMP


'nuff said

What's MMP? You'll probably answer and I"ll feel dumb, but nonetheless.