2g non turbo?

[Reckage]

I was wondering now tha i'm considering a 2g eclipse i'm reading about alot of crankwalk issues and stuff, I read the article at magnus motor sports, also the one about the engine swap,

But now i'm wondering is crankwalk the same issue for non turboed 2g engines or just turboed, Also would all the engine swap articles (6 bolt 4g63 1g motor)work the same with a non turboed gs or rs

Would appreciate the info.

[CODE4]

2GNT's (rs/gs) do not suffer from crankwalk. 4g issue only. And if you are interested in swapping motors from different manufacturers (i.e. 420a into GST/X or vice versa) save yourself money and time and buy the car with the motor you ultimately want. Too many things are invloved in the swap (center crossmember, tranny, axles...) to make it practical.

If you have a parts car next to your car and have money and want to do it just to say you have done it, do some searching - it has been done before.

[Reckage]

Hey Code 4 i'm moving out to Phoenix this summer to go to school,

I'm asking this question because i currently own a 78 pontiac trans am luv it cant keep it though but i'm gonna sell it to buy a 2g eclipse after reading about crankwalk and stuff i'm thinking of just getting an rs or gs because i still luv the body style and need better gas mileage( i will undoubtedly mod the hell of it slowly), I'm trying to sell my transam for atleast $6500 and i can get an eclipse from dallas dealer car auctions because my dad used to sell used cars and knows ppl who'll get us in with them, I can probably get one for under $2000 easy, 3yrs ago we got a gs for 2500 manual and chrome rims so they r cheaper now.

I'm asking because there might be an eclipse there with a bad motor which will then cost even less, So How difficult would it be to throw in a 1g turbo 6bolt into an rs/gs I dont want a 2g turbo 7 bolt. Any Other suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Believe me i can get an eclipse 95-97 that cheap but i'm poor so i have to look for these deals.

[ashah000]

You cant put a 6 bolt into a r/gs unless you are willing to spend a shit load.

[JoeWagon]

A few things you might want to know:
1.The cost of putting a turbo motor into an RS/GS makes it almost stupid to attempt it. You'd see in the thread 'read BEFORE you post' that the cost from 2gnt is ~$5600.
2.'Modding the hell out of' an RS/GS is going to end up with a turbo unless you are satisfied with 150 horsepower.
3. It's more expensive to turbo an RS/GS than to buy a GST/GSX in the first place.

[Reckage]

Ok thanx for the info,

Okay i understand now by the passion of ur answers that putting a 1g motor in rs/gs is impossible and not practical thanx for the criticism just wanted to know I'm gonna buy an rs/gs then and rebuild it changing the internals and prepping them for when i can afford a stage 2 turbo kit from hahn, I told u i din't want a 2g 7bolt turbo motor. I hate that everyone well not everyone always suggests well fuck the rs/gs save ur money u idiot and get a gsx.
Thanx for the info anyways sorry for me not knowing but i've hated ricers my whole life this is a drastic change for mr and i gotta deal with it.

[ashah000]

If you going to buy a rs/gs and then mod the hell out of it, it will cost you a lot still. And if you spend that much on a gst/x you will be quicker.

I am not putting the NT down, come on now I have one. I am just saying what is practical. If you really want to turbo it go for it, but for under 2k you can be in the 12's with a gst/x

[JoeWagon]

I dont want to sound as harsh as 'save up your money for the gsx idiot' but they say it for a reason. I don't know if you read the best crankwalk info out there (http://racingknowledge.org/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=185), but crankwalk doesn't happen often at all. If that's your main issue for not wanting a GST/GSX then I would reconsider.

[Reckage]

Well yes i am very worried about CW because first of all i'm buying from an auction for sure because as i said i can get them way way cheaper there but surely they would have been abused and the chance of the gsx i choose having crankwalk is pretty good. Yes i am very freaked out about this i dont have much money cuz i'm gonna take off to college i will only throw in the money i get from the trans am so i dont want to replace a motor if i get cw, and yes maybe its been blown outa proportion but i got suxed in and because i dont have much it worries me even more i hope u understand. i read that article joe and the one from magnus motorsports but they just freaked me out more lol.
Thanx joe and everybody for ur input, U guys R awsome here lots of great input.

[ashah000]

Yea I know what you mean. Expecially when buying through an auction. But if you can find a turbo one for cheap there, you can drop a 6 bolt in that. Then you should not have to worry about CW

[Reckage]

Ok y arent the engine bays isrs/gs the same as the gsx/gst isnt it basically the samr car.
Anyways say i do find a gsx/gst with a busted motor it will undoubtedly be cheaper because of engine how much money am i looking at for the engine swap especially since i have no time to do it myself cuz i got to go college in june, Also how many options are there out there for the 6bolt motor which sites.

[JoeWagon]

The engine bays are practically the same... it's the motor mounts and wiring harness/ECU that's different. N/T motors are a whole different engine block.

[drewh4386]

Joe-
so all you need to do is put in different motor mounts? I was not tryin to make it sound like its easy. The 5000+ price to switch motors is for a new motor right? You could buy a wreaked but running gs-t/gsx from a junkyard and switch them that way couldn't you?

[Reckage]

Yyea joe what if i get the motor mounts and buy the entire motor from www.totaljdm.com with the money i get from my other car

[JoeWagon]

You can't buy the fitment, you have to make it. It's custom motor mounts. Yes the 5000+ price includes the motor. If you wanted to pay $7000 for the swap + donor car, you could. Not real cost effective though.

Again, you can do it, but it's not cost effective in any situation over buying the GST/GSX.