About "Sway bars, braces, and too much tech!!! "

[Veetec]

about: "Important-Sway bars, braces, and too much tech!!!"
So the DC-Sports strut tower bar which I´ve just ordered some days ago are crap??? Did I understand that right and if yes is there any way to correct that??

[drift]

it's not bad, but it aint the best.

the pivoting attachment points doesnt allow the design to prevent chassis twist to the fullest. Neuspeed's solid designs are much more capable.

other hinged designs are also stronger, like the Spoon bars... plus they're a bit lighter.

the dc bar does have one nice featrue, that you can adjust the bar to tighten the two points together once installed.

i have witnessed a couple of cheaper bars that have full adjustability actually snap at the pivot points before, which is the basis for my dislike of them.

[Veetec]

Originally posted by drift
it's not bad, but it aint the best.

the pivoting attachment points doesnt allow the design to prevent chassis twist to the fullest. Neuspeed's solid designs are much more capable.

other hinged designs are also stronger, like the Spoon bars... plus they're a bit lighter.

the dc bar does have one nice featrue, that you can adjust the bar to tighten the two points together once installed.

i have witnessed a couple of cheaper bars that have full adjustability actually snap at the pivot points before, which is the basis for my dislike of them.

Does a sporty driven daily-driver really need this additional stiffness??
Maybe it´s possible to send it back? The problem is that DC-Sports of germany had to order it from the states. I dunno if they will take it back.

[Dezoris]

Basically many strut bars are just pretty, for looks, like the DC.
I have one of those pretty bars, and I have never replaced it just because I already wasted 100$ on it. If you can send it back the Neuspeed is functional, as well as the Comptech.

If not well then... You could always weld the pivot points.
It does stiffen the towers (while increasing turbulence) when you are driving straight, when both front towers are being stress by the shocks reacting on a bump at the same time, but when you have the car on three wheels the strut bar is just pivoting on that one side.

[Veetec]

Originally posted by Dezoris
Basically many strut bars are just pretty, for looks, like the DC.
I have one of those pretty bars, and I have never replaced it just because I already wasted 100$ on it. If you can send it back the Neuspeed is functional, as well as the Comptech.

If not well then... You could always weld the pivot points.
It does stiffen the towers (while increasing turbulence) when you are driving straight, when both front towers are being stress by the shocks reacting on a bump at the same time, but when you have the car on three wheels the strut bar is just pivoting on that one side.

Have you welded the pivots of your DC bar?? And if not why? On the other hand I´m asking myself if I´ll really need a stiffer one because I´m not driving on tracks or anything like that. It´s just a sporty driven daily driver. That´s all. I´d guess about 80% (or even more) of the members in here don´t really need a strut tower bar because they aren´t real hardcore racers (including me)! IMO magazines and commercials make us feel like we are real racers but in reality most of us won´t need all these stuff. But maybe I´m wrong....

[Dezoris]

Originally posted by Veetec

Have you welded the pivots of your DC bar?? And if not why? On the other hand I´m asking myself if I´ll really need a stiffer one because I´m not driving on tracks or anything like that. It´s just a sporty driven daily driver. That´s all. I´d guess about 80% (or even more) of the members in here don´t really need a strut tower bar because they aren´t real hardcore racers (including me)! IMO magazines and commercials make us feel like we are real racers but in reality most of us won´t need all these stuff. But maybe I´m wrong....

That is one of the most intelligent comments I have heard!!!
That is true, most are not racers, and to be honest, I bet no one will ever mention to you that you have a pivot based strut bar!! It is good enough, if you ever go all race, weld the pivots custom fab one to stiffen yorur front end or just pick up a solid bar.

[Racing Rice]

Originally posted by Veetec

Have you welded the pivots of your DC bar?? And if not why? On the other hand I´m asking myself if I´ll really need a stiffer one because I´m not driving on tracks or anything like that. It´s just a sporty driven daily driver. That´s all. I´d guess about 80% (or even more) of the members in here don´t really need a strut tower bar because they aren´t real hardcore racers (including me)! IMO magazines and commercials make us feel like we are real racers but in reality most of us won´t need all these stuff. But maybe I´m wrong....

I agree totally... Its the power of television!! But what does this statement say about the rest of the parts we by like AEM CAI...

I wish BDC was here to have fun with that one..

[Veetec]

Originally posted by Dezoris

That is one of the most intelligent comments I have heard!!!
That is true, most are not racers, and to be honest, I bet no one will ever mention to you that you have a pivot based strut bar!! It is good enough, if you ever go all race, weld the pivots custom fab one to stiffen yorur front end or just pick up a solid bar.

Thanx!
The guy who has ordered it for me (from the garage of a good friend of mine) called them again today and now I will get the one from Neuspeed. Like I´ve already said I don´t think that I´ll need one but it gives me a better feeling and I don´t want to miss it in my engine bay anymore (it´s looking really nice IMO) ! Does anybody know what the normal price of it is because we forgot to ask about it?!
So the only suspension problem I´m still having is the camber! But I guess I have to wait till my car is dropped to find out. Thanx for all the responses!

[Dezoris]

Originally posted by Racing Rice


I agree totally... Its the power of television!! But what does this statement say about the rest of the parts we by like AEM CAI...

I wish BDC was here to have fun with that one..

I think this is one of the places BDC does not frequent
Get his ass over here.

[Dezoris]

Originally posted by Veetec
Thanx!
The guy who has ordered it for me (from the garage of a good friend of mine) called them again today and now I will get the one from Neuspeed. Like I´ve already said I don´t think that I´ll need one but it gives me a better feeling and I don´t want to miss it in my engine bay anymore (it´s looking really nice IMO) ! Does anybody know what the normal price of it is because we forgot to ask about it?!
So the only suspension problem I´m still having is the camber! But I guess I have to wait till my car is dropped to find out. Thanx for all the responses!

It really is a better design.

[Veetec]

Originally posted by Dezoris

I think this is one of the places BDC does not frequent
Get his ass over here.

Who is BDC???

[Veetec]

Originally posted by Dezoris


It really is a better design.

Yep, I can see your point!

[Dezoris]

Originally posted by Veetec
Who is BDC???

The imfamous "Black Deuce Coupe"
He know how to stir up shit, but he also knows his shit.

[Veetec]

Originally posted by Dezoris

The imfamous "Black Deuce Coupe"
He know how to stir up shit, but he also knows his shit.

Hm,....never heard of him!! You think he would be angry about my opinion??

[Racing Rice]

nope not at all... Hed probably be so overwelmed with joy that people are starting to realize that a lot of these products are so overly hyped up by the magazines,etc.. That it turns the import enthusiasts into zombies and makes them think.. "Ill spend all this money on this stuff and now my car is so fast!" when actually youve just spent 1000$ on parts that only hurt you torque curve, but damn it.. You do have 2 more hp.. lol..

Hey Dez.. how close do you think that is to a BDC statement.. lol..