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Turbo engine management
Does anybody know any good engine management systems for a turbo car on an OBD-II. I know Hondata will only work on OBD-I and the swap i asume is a pain. I think the A'pexi will also only work on OBD-I. Does the GReddy E-manage, cuz my cousin has it on his IS300. Im not too fond of GReddy though. If anyone has any ideas on what to do, or explanation of the swap thatd be great cuz i like the hondata.
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Re: Turbo engine management
Aem Ems
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Re: Turbo engine management
Ya that would be nice but outta my price range. I shoulda noted that that one is out
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The obd2 to obd1 conversion is not that complicated. There are aftermarket conversion harnesses that you can buy that allows you to basically plug your obd2 harness into a obd1 ecu. I would do with the hondata for best feature for the price. The emanage is a glorified Apexi AFC.
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Re: Turbo engine management
Heard bad things about the Hondata & E-Manage. Go with the EMS, worth the $$$
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1996 GSR w/ 1995 OBD-1 B18C1, Hondata S200 w/ P61 ECU, LS Tranny w/ Quaife LSD,ClutchMstr Stg 5,T/4 AR .60 w/ HKS Wastegate,RC 660 cc Injectors,Had Throttlebody,Skunk2 Intake Manifold,Eagle Sleeves,JE Pistons, Carrillo Rods,Stock Head & Internals,Thermal 3" Exhaust w/ no Cat,AEM Fuel Rail-Riser-UEGO-Cam Gears-Pullies-Fuel Filter,255 Fuel Pump,MSD 6A,GReddy Front Mount, 2-12's, 3 Amps,MB QuartComponents,Type-R Lip & 00 Head & Tailights, 2000 Integra Type R: Totaled
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Re: Turbo engine management
None in general, heard from 2 people that bought them and sold them like a month later and got the EMS. I was looking into a hondata but was steered away from it. How much does it cost by the way?
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1996 GSR w/ 1995 OBD-1 B18C1, Hondata S200 w/ P61 ECU, LS Tranny w/ Quaife LSD,ClutchMstr Stg 5,T/4 AR .60 w/ HKS Wastegate,RC 660 cc Injectors,Had Throttlebody,Skunk2 Intake Manifold,Eagle Sleeves,JE Pistons, Carrillo Rods,Stock Head & Internals,Thermal 3" Exhaust w/ no Cat,AEM Fuel Rail-Riser-UEGO-Cam Gears-Pullies-Fuel Filter,255 Fuel Pump,MSD 6A,GReddy Front Mount, 2-12's, 3 Amps,MB QuartComponents,Type-R Lip & 00 Head & Tailights, 2000 Integra Type R: Totaled
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Re: Turbo engine management
It costs about $400ish for the s200 with boost option.
Hearing from 2 people who bought it and then sold it a month later does not reflect the products quality, there might have been more reasons behind them selling it. But like I said I have never heard one bad thing about hondata, and i know alot of people here in GA that are running it, and are as happy as they can be.
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I also have never heard of any problems with hondata. That is what I plan on running in my racecar when I finish it. The AEM EMS is by far one of the best stand-alones I have ever seen and is worth the price. The downfalls to it are that it is not very user friendly and competent AEM tuners are hard to come by.
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Re: Turbo engine management
deffinatley go with the hondata, your dealer should be able to set up with a full system w/ injectors and tuned for just under $1000 to $1500 depending on just what options you wanted and still get the options that you need for the lower price. They are a breeze to tune also and support a pretty effective autotune function used in conjunction with a wideband system, your dealer should also have one of those. check out hondata's website
www.hondata.com and look into the s200 section. |
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Re: Turbo engine management
for 1000 to 1500 he could just get the AEM ! You can get and tune a hondata for less ! both are great systems
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Everyone has a prefference and a different experience, like said before, they are both good systems, bottom line is you can get more for less with the hondata way. If you do have the extra time and money to invest into an AEM system go for it! The AEM does have a better autotune function and can yeild more options in the end but for any normal person that has hp goals up to 500-600hp atw the hondata is gold! |
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Re: Turbo engine management
Yea, boosted331, I guess I should have made that alittle clearer. Good post. The Hondata system works in the same way, it works well for partial tuning, after you do a "autotune" pass, you "interpolate" the section you just tuned to smooth out the peaks and dips and then set that as the "new base". I would recomend doing all of the WOT tuning manually. I just feel better about my own active corrections than I do about the computer doing them for me.
Does the AEM autotune function work will for WOT tuning? Have not had any experience with that function on the AEM.. |
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Re: Turbo engine management
i havent either, id be interested in knowing as well...considering my build is almost complete and i am going to be in need of ECU selection here real soon
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