Camper or Toe?

[gonj182]

What's are the pros and cons of changing the camper or toe angles?
Also, when would you change the camper angle and when would you change the toe angle?

[Auto_newb]

Dude, you mean CAMBER. Are you talking about toe-in or toe-out?

[gonj182]

yea, camber and toe-in and toe-out.

[spooleffect]

More negative camber will increase cornering grip and stability however you will have to deal with straight line braking and accelerating problems(less tire is on the ground whilst going straight) and possible tire wear problems. With toe-in you get better steering response but you loose a little cornering grip, toe-out does the opposite. Both toe-in and out increase rolling resistance and tire wear though.

[GTR2b]

Originally Posted by spooleffect

More negative camber will increase cornering grip and stability however you will have to deal with straight line braking and accelerating problems(less tire is on the ground whilst going straight) and possible tire wear problems. With toe-in you get better steering response but you loose a little cornering grip, toe-out does the opposite. Both toe-in and out increase rolling resistance and tire wear though.

Good Job with the answer on Camber! Most people mix it up with Caster or get it wrong entirely.

The only thing is that you got toe-in and toe-backwards. Toe-in will increase straight line stability (most cars have 1-2 degrees from the factory) and toe-out will increase steering response but will make the car tend to "wander" a bit at high speed. Like you said though, BOTH dramatically affect tire wear.

My question to the original poster is why are you asking about this? It would literally take pages to explain suspension geometry and theory with any kind of detail.

You didn't cut your springs did you?

[BP2K2Max]

go to www.howstuffworks.com they have diagrams and all sorts of great shit. i'm sure there is a section on suspension.

[spooleffect]

Originally Posted by GTR2b

Good Job with the answer on Camber! Most people mix it up with Caster or get it wrong entirely.

The only thing is that you got toe-in and toe-backwards. Toe-in will increase straight line stability (most cars have 1-2 degrees from the factory) and toe-out will increase steering response but will make the car tend to "wander" a bit at high speed. Like you said though, BOTH dramatically affect tire wear.

My question to the original poster is why are you asking about this? It would literally take pages to explain suspension geometry and theory with any kind of detail.

You didn't cut your springs did you?

From what Ive read, toe-out lessens steering response because the outside tire is at an opposing angle to the corner your turning into. You lose steering response having to overcome that opposing angle. Yeah, there is now simple suspension answer.

[GTR2b]

I used to do alignments for a living.