philly auto show

[evochica]

ok guys i went to the philly auto show yesterday and it was pretty good. they didnt have the evo vii there which i already knew but it was cool anyways. ok now i talked to the mitsu lady and this is what she told me. (take this with a grain of salt)

- will be coming out in sept. of this year as a 2003 model... um yeah ok, i told her that i heard from everywhere that its coming out jan. or spring of 2003 as a 2004 model but she was like no (whatever)

- will have 280 hp(!!)... i told her i heard it was gonna have like 250-260 but she said nope, 280

- will have front mount intercooler but it will probably be smaller

- and she said that she talked to the mitsu people everyday this week and they kept telling her the same thing- $27k msrp

- only bringing over 7-8k evos so get on a dealer waiting list asap, doesnt think the dealers will mark up the evos that much more than msrp

i dont know how reliable her info is but most of it seems to match what we've heard except for the release date. i am still thinking its not coming out til 2003, personally. as for the hp, we can only hope they bring it over as 280hp just thought i'd share what i heard.

cant wait for the ny auto show in april, the info will probably will be reliable there and they will have an evo too!!!!

oh and i took some pics but i gotta get them developed and scan them so when i do, i will post them

[Dippiedoo]

first off, the models normally dont know shit.

eheh you got lucky, but i think she was just being stupid.

27k?

WAAAA no way. thats to expensive, i can get a WRX cheaper then that.
cant be that much, just out of my range, hell the Benz is cheaper then that.

[evochica]

oh and i forgot to say that she said that the least picky you are about colors and stuff, the higher you go to the top of the list. i think they are only going to have 5 colors (black, white, red, yellow and bue) and i would take red or black so i guess that ups my chance to 2/5 hehe.

i will buy it as long as its less than $30k and has 250 hp or more. but remember wrxs are NOT really competing with the evo. they have 225 hp and the evos will have 25hp or more on them (without mods). the evo is going to be competing with the wrx sti which they are going to bring over in 2004 as a 2005 model i heard.

[Dippiedoo]

really hard to justify buying a car for 30k that i am just going to tear up. =\

[Raceghost]

But think of the rrrrrrrruuuuuuussssssssshhhhhhhh doing it.
Noit saying that you need to terrorize parks and stuff with it...people do leave dents.
Now I may be insane and exagerate on how I will drive my EVO. But one thing is for sure, I will not be defeated cause it is a little more money than we think it should be. How can we put a price on one, Half of us have never driven one yet, do we know what there worth? I mean it started at 34k, went to 30-32k, and now were down to 27k. It s a dream come true, thats 7k lower than we were origanally told, so thats a positive.
Dippy, you got a ask yourself one thing...Do you just wanna commute in your beemer...or DRIVE in your lancer?
Just food for thought. Get what your heart desires!

[Dippiedoo]

Hehe i just know how i drive, and i know what goes into the lancer, just trying to find justifcation for all the money and just a intercooler and turbo and all wheel drive. /shrug.

[wonderspark]

I heard the same thing from the folks (not models) at the LA show. 280hp, they said only 4 colors, red, white, black, and yellow, and 27k, about 8000 of them.

[wonderspark]

Actually, the guy said between 272 and 277 hp, which I thought was odd. But he said it was basically the same car as Japan's. I jizzed myself anyway, even though I still take it all with a grain of salt.

[Raceghost]

We arn't getting the titanium turbo, and we will not get the same transmission as the J-spec either. Spoke with the owner of http://www.teamrip.com/services.html, he does a lot of business with Ralliart, he stated that the specs for the US Lancer have been detuned a tich, our turbo's and trannys will be different all together, our HP will be about 270, reasoning is, the J-Spec has a HP rating of 310, but they rate them lower to 276 for some law, so the actual output is 310HP in Japan, but we will get a detuned EVO witha Max HP of about 270.

[violinandy]

why a different tranny? wouldn't that be a pretty costly little piece of R&D for mitsubishi? a different turbo would be really easy, since all they would have to do is put a turbo on from one of their older evos or eclipses, but a different tranny is really wierd. It seems like it would be difficult and costly to implement, and waaaay unnecessary.

[evochica]

hey i'll take $27k thank you very much. i was just hoping that it would be under $30k because i couldnt afford it otherwise. i am just hoping the dealers dont mark it up too much over msrp because i dont have a nut to sell hehe, so i'd have to sell my eggs. but then again, i heard you get like $5k for one of those babies hehe. but do i really want my demon children running around? hmm, probably not. so those damn mitsu people better keep it in my price range because i am gonna go crazy if i dont get an evo. it will not be pretty.

[Raceghost]

Bad choice of words earlier,
The tranny is really not different, just a different componentry on its inside, the Evo tranny has special gears and stuff or it's how its made, not sure all details, The guy I talked to does a lot of business with Ralliart and he gets the inside track from them and Mitsu.
As for MSRP, the dealer here wasn't sure. They will be between 25-30k.
Depending on how many get here first. There is 8000 coming, but not all will hit the U.S. at once. MSRP is going to reflect supply and demand.
That was his knowledge.

[evochica]

yeah i have to get my ass in gear and go harass the dealers by me, i think there are like 3 within 25 miles of me. i'll probably go on my lunch hour tomorrow. i'll see what they all say in regards to price, availibility, quanity, hp, the whole nine. i'll post it tomorrow night probably. so here's hoping that between 3 dealers, i'll be able to get my black or red evo under $30k

[BlackStripes]

Everything sounds like a dream come true..!!! 270HP detuned version and AWD, under 27K .!!! that's damn cheap...
The only problem is maybe get some aftermarket products in US... I guess the Sti will have a lot more aftermarkets ..
Anyway, somebody know how much HP can handle the engine and tranny in a Evo VII ??? :smoker:

[boostislove]

I want to know exactly what turbo they're putting in it, how reliable it is, and how much the titanium/aluminum turbine will be to swap it out if the US-spec turbo is crappy (or significantly inferior to the J-spec)