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2+2 with a VG30DETT??

I was wondering if it was possible to engine swap with the twin turbo engine with a 2+2 300z. Im about to buy a 2+2, but just want more hp.
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Old 04-27-2004, 08:22 AM
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Re: 2+2 with a VG30DETT??

why engine swap when you could just turbo it? the "TT" at the end of vg30dett just means twin turbo you would be better off buying better turbos from someone like hks or some other good turbo manufacturer of turbos and install one with higher boost than stock vg30dett come with. go for the whole kit intercooler new injectors boost control the whole nine yards. with stronger after market turbos you could push more horses than a stock 300zxtt with a 2+2!
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Re: Re: 2+2 with a VG30DETT??

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why engine swap when you could just turbo it? the "TT" at the end of vg30dett just means twin turbo you would be better off buying better turbos from someone like hks or some other good turbo manufacturer of turbos and install one with higher boost than stock vg30dett come with. go for the whole kit intercooler new injectors boost control the whole nine yards. with stronger after market turbos you could push more horses than a stock 300zxtt with a 2+2!
How much do u think it would cost to turbo charge it and where would i be able to by this kit, because all i have seen were upgrade kits for the tt.
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Old 04-27-2004, 03:39 PM
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Re: 2+2 with a VG30DETT??

Don't pay attention to him NismoRacer. He's just telling you all about his sn. He's telling you a story. Not a true story, a story that a lot of ppl wish was true, but a story nonetheless.

There's a reason why you can't just drop in turbos and intercoolers into an NA VG30. Since you're obviously new to the whole Z world, I suggest you take some time do some more searching throughout this forum and other more Z oriented forums.
www.Zdriver.com
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www.twinturbo.net
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Re: 2+2 with a VG30DETT??

It's a long and expensive process, my young padawan... is it worth it? Well, that's entirely up to you! NA to TT swap will cost you $7500-$10000. I know people that have done it... they shit money. I would like to do it... I don't shit money. If power is what you really want for your NA... you may want to consider a NITROUS system. With injector and ECU upgrade you can easily reach 300HP with NITROUS.
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Re: 2+2 with a VG30DETT??

I'm not sure whereabouts you live NismoRacer. But if you live down south, close to Georgia, Z1Motorsports will do a tt swap for you for 6K.
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http://www.z1motorsports.com/tech.asp
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Old 04-29-2004, 01:29 AM
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I you want a turbo Z, buy a turbo Z. It is a DAMNsight easier then trying to make an NA into one. If you just have your heart set on this 2+2, can't imagine why since the back seat is smaller then the one in my 240SX which one step above a storage shelf, then you can save money on the install by doing it yourself.

PROVIDED YOU HAVE!: A full set of automotive tools, not just some wrenchs and sockets, we're talking small shop here. Plus an engine lift, transmission jack is optional but VERY handy and of course a 300ZX book for your year and one for the engine your getting if you are just buying another motor. Labor on a swap or turbo install is huge because you do have to pull the motor and with a Z32, well, its nothing a sane person does willingly, I'm pulling my 95 TT motor and you have never seen so many hoses in such a small space. Nissan engineers must have x-ray vision or something. Don't consider this a viable option unless you have said full tools and have done this sort of thing before.

Also remember that engines in the Zs differed much through the various trim levels and options. Different cams and turbo sizes from AT to 5 spd and year to year...NA to turbo. Get numbers for whatever you are getting and check them first to avoid problems later.

Whatever you go with, you better have massive funds for the project. The cheapest turbo upgrades I've seen for Zs are in the area of 400 per turbo before you even get into piping, ecu and all the many many many hoses you must get. You won't be able to do that yourself. Best to either just buy a turbo Z or like 1via said, nitro and basic mod your 2+2. Don't spend all your money on a car you don't want. Find the one that is exactly what you want and buy that. It will be much easier and cheaper in the long run even though it takes patience. It took me months to find my dark green/black leather 95 (best year IMO) TT with all the basic mods on it. JWT intake/ecu, full borla exhaust. It was well worth the wait.
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Re: 2+2 with a VG30DETT??

there was a thread about this a while ago.....has pics from a guy doing the same swap....might wanna do a search
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Re: 2+2 with a VG30DETT??

here's the link from the thread

http://ashleypowers.com/Image%20Gall...sion/index.htm
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Re: 2+2 with a VG30DETT??

the Z engine is crap like Acura legend swap is not easy like honda. i would want a 2+2 TT but just too much and Z parts are expensive. i live next to ZcarAtlanta i notice them do swap AT to 5speed most of the time. but haven't know anything about NA To TT
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Re: 2+2 with a VG30DETT??

2+2 TT's are damn cool though...
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Re: 2+2 with a VG30DETT??

If you have a close buddy who doesnt mine spending a week installing a tt front clip for u, then go for the conversion, i recommend getting a tt front clip, saves so much time!!! U can get a front clip for about 3k. Most people when they talk of doing the conversion its expensive, which it is! but if you have a friend with the know how and doesnt mind doing the swap then u just saved yourself 2-3k in labor cost. Labor is what kicks so many peoples asses when it comes to doing the swap but in this case it would only cost around 3,000 to 3,500 to do the swap. Also you'll be unike in that u have a 2+2 twin turbo and na diffrentials which = better low end acceleration. Also you will save some money on insurance. just my 2 cents
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Re: 2+2 with a VG30DETT??

2+2 TT's are everywhere that drives on the left hand side and uses the right hand side to drive!
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Re: 2+2 with a VG30DETT??

a 2+2 TT is a rare site here in the states. if you have the money and time, i say do it. it would save on insurance.
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Uh...you would have to keep it for probably like 10 years to save any money on insurance.

Remember: If you want a turbo Z, buy a turbo Z. That will save you money.

Personally I'm not that partial to 2+2s. You aren't getting that much room inside (a rear storage shelf basically), it weighs more and I believe that to have the rear seat they had to move the tank behind the rear axle, screwing with weight distrubition in a badly negative way. That and in my opinion, the longer body makes the small corner window look to long and messes with the whole look of the car. The tank placement, I don't know that for sure, you are the guys with the 2+2s. Anyway, all I really see NA owners writing about is how they want more power and if they can turbo their car. The expensive part is getting the turbo in the car. After that, you can make alot of power really easy. A TT with simple mods will make upwards of 100 hp over stock on top of the 80hp lead it already has on the NA. A NA with simple mods will make maybe half that if you are lucky. Really, why spend all that money on a car that isn't what you want. You don't have to settle with hopes of upgrading later. A fast Z is a turbo Z, and they sell turbo Zs, which are alot easier and cheaper to buy then to build.

Maybe its just because like the name says, I'm broke as ****, so I can't really justify going another, more expensive and time consuming, route to whats virtually the same car. I mean, if you really, really, really got to have a turbo 2+2 and you got the cash then its up to you but...if you just want a wicked fast Z32 just by a TT.
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