3kgt deserves more respect

[3kgt8]

why is it that the 3000gt doesnt get as much respect as cars such as RX7'S or Supras. dont take me wrong i like those cars a lot but theyre somewhat overrated IMO. I think the 3kgt deserves more respect. if you go to any other forum besides this one, they will tell you that its a tank and that it cant kick ass. the 3000gt was the last one to be produced in the States and yet you dont see them in magazines or websites that much. you see tons of Supras, RX7S, AND Hondas, but no 3kgts. maybe its good in a way because i wouldnt want for the 3kgt to become a trendy car. i dont know what? What do you guys think? Am i exaggeratin g or is it the truth?

[Igovert500]

This is actually a common rant amoung us(3s owners). I've had people tell me their SL's were over 4200lbs, that their Jetta beat a 3000gt, blah blah blah...the problem is a lack of knowledge due to their limited availability and lack of pop-culture popularity. It's more of a cult following. This comes with the benefit of blowing the doors off alot of cars without them ever knowing what hit them, but also hurts us with the lack of aftermarket research and products. I am sure every 3s owner/enthusiast here would agree with you. It's nice and it sucks at the same time, personally I prefer it over having my vr4 be the next civic...but we do share your frustration.

[youngvr4]

myself and yogs have gained the vr4 much respect in the street racing forum, they know what it can do and have heard my racing stories. they will still speak on how heavy it is, cause it is, but it is still a monster, more than they really know.

[3kgt8]

thanks guys

[azn3000GTRacer]

Originally Posted by youngvr4

myself and yogs have gained the vr4 much respect in the street racing forum, they know what it can do and have heard my racing stories. they will still speak on how heavy it is, cause it is, but it is still a monster, more than they really know.

Yes it does suck that our cars dont get much publicity. But as long as we know and a few other know what they can do iam happy. I mean they can bitch and complain about our weight anyday but can still run a 1/4 mile in 13.5 secs stock. Thats just as fast as supras, camaro's, rx7, hondas and they all weigh alot less. I added up all the weights and they average out to be 356.7 lbs leighter than our cars. And we can still compete.

[Igovert500]

haha...and the supra is the only one of those besides us that can run that stock...

[Teazrsnow]

These cars are heavy, especially a vr-4. But our engines are able to produce slightly more power faster than a 2jz when modified correctly and the supra is a heavy car as well but the drivetrain loss is our only weakness. And as proof the owner of GtPro as quoted in modified magazine owns 1 heavily modified supra, a modified skyline, and a 3000gt vr-4 with 150,000 mi on it and said that the 3000gt was the ultimate street car

[skateanddestroy]

how much does the VR4 weigh?

[azn3000GTRacer]

Originally Posted by skateanddestroy

how much does the VR4 weigh?

A healthy 3800lbs.

[Igovert500]

91 vr4 = 3791
92 vr4 = 3802
93,94 = 3803
95,96 = 3781, spyder vr4 = 3803
97,98,99 = 3737

[youngvr4]

Originally Posted by azn3000GTRacer

Yes it does suck that our cars dont get much publicity. But as long as we know and a few other know what they can do iam happy. I mean they can bitch and complain about our weight anyday but can still run a 1/4 mile in 13.5 secs stock. Thats just as fast as supras, camaro's, rx7, hondas and they all weigh alot less. I added up all the weights and they average out to be 356.7 lbs leighter than our cars. And we can still compete.

why was honda's put in this? only honda i know in our league is the nsx, thats it!! is that what you meant by honda?

igovert500 the camaro ss runs 13.5 and has actually run faster than that. from your comment the supra is the only car out of those that can run our times. not attacking you or anything, just a heads up








#10 MITSUBISHI 3000GT

Putting the power to the pavement is the name of the acceleration game. The Mitsubishi 3000GT VR4 has 320 hp, much less than the Jag and Lightning, and the same power rating as the Mustang Cobra. So what gives the Mitsubishi the advantage over them? Traction.

This is the only all-wheel-drive car in this test. That means no wheelspin. Launching the Mitsubishi is so simple, it's like flying into outer space - even a monkey can do it. Just tach up the DOHC twin-turbocharged V6 up near its 6000 rpm power peak and drop that clutch. Granted, this isn't the best thing for the car's durability, but it sure gets this 2+2 off the line like a slingshot. All four 18-in. tires dig in, the 3000GT squats like Mike Piazza, and you are gone.

Don't expect any rubber when you throw gears, either. Tire slip in this car is harder to come by than a date with Pamela Anderson. Shifter action and clutch takeup could be a bit smoother, so quick gear changes aren't easy. But the V6's surprising amount of low-end torque really gets the heavy Mitsubishi going. And the motor pulls right up to its 7000 rpm redline.

One thing missing from the Mitsubishi's stellar performance: the right sounds. Its hair dryer exhaust note just doesn't cut it.

Test Summary:
Mitsubishi 3000GT

Base price: $44,600, Price as tested: $45,140
Engine: 3.0L/181.0 CID DOHC 24v twin turbo V6
HP: 320 @ 6000 rpm, Torque: 315 ft.-lb. @ 2500 rpm
Trans: 6M, Drivetrain: front engine/awd
Final drive: 3.87:1 w/center viscous coupling
Curb weight: 3737 lb, Weight/HP ratio: 11.7
Horsepower/liter: 106.7, Tires: 245/40ZR18
Acceleration: 0-30 mph: 1.70 sec. 0-60 mph: 5.00 sec.
1/4 mile: 13.44 sec. @ 101.79 mph









#9 CHEVROLET CAMARO SS

This one is a mystery.

This Camaro SS, powered by the same 320-hp LS1 V8 as our Pontiac Firebird Formula WS-6, ran a 13.42 at 106.15 mph - more than quick enough to beat archrival Mustang and assure its place on the quickest-Camaros-of-all-time list. However, it's not even close to the blistering time delivered by the Pontiac. Why?

The answer, again, is traction. The Camaro is very difficult to launch cleanly. Too many revs, like anything over 1500, and the tires go up in smoke for all of First gear. Too few and the car bogs. The Firebird, however, is very easy to launch. Tach up to 2500 rpm, ride the clutch just a bit and you're out of there. Why the difference between the two seemingly identical cars? That's like asking why two socks go in the laundry and only one comes out. It's one of the mysteries of the world, especially when you consider that both cars wear the same-size Goodyear Eagle F1 tires, have the same engine, same gearing, etc.

Despite being slower than its GM brother, the Camaro is still one of the most fun cars to blast down the track thanks to its awesome engine, its strong clutch, its short throw shifter and its musclecar soundtrack. This car rumbles up to the line. It launches with a roar from its two exhaust pipes and it sounds like Steve McQueen's Mustang running after that Dodge Charger on the gear changes.

Test Summary:
Chevrolet Camaro SS

Base price: $20,870, Price as tested: $27,466
Engine: 5.7-liter/346.0 cu.-in. OHV 16v V8
HP: 320 @ 5200 rpm, Torque: 345 ft.-lb. @ 4400 rpm
Trans: 6M, Drivetrain: front engine/rear drive
Rear axle: 3.42:1 limited-slip
Curb weight: 3439 lb, Weight/HP ratio: 10.8
Horsepower per liter: 56.1, Tires: 275/40ZR17
Acceleration: 0-30 mph: 2.27 sec. 0-60 mph: 5.27 sec.
1/4 mile: 13.42 sec. @ 106.15 mph

[Igovert500]

^ thanx for the correction and I do have to say I enjoyed this, "Tire slip in this car is harder to come by than a date with Pamela Anderson." especially because of the number of stupid highschool students who I have had to explain to why I can't spin my tires for them...granted I don't lose any sleep over their disappointment...but it's just irratating to be waiting at a red light and hear the same, "Hey, Hey! How much horsepower does that have?...Spin the tires!"

[youngvr4]

lol, i too have h ad to explain many times i can't spin my tires

[integralover]

Base price: $44,600, Price as tested: $45,140
Engine: 3.0L/181.0 CID DOHC 24v twin turbo V6
HP: 320 @ 6000 rpm, Torque: 315 ft.-lb. @ 2500 rpm
Trans: 6M, Drivetrain: front engine/awd
Final drive: 3.87:1 w/center viscous coupling
Curb weight: 3737 lb, Weight/HP ratio: 11.7
Horsepower/liter: 106.7, Tires: 245/40ZR18
Acceleration: 0-30 mph: 1.70 sec. 0-60 mph: 5.00 sec.
1/4 mile: 13.44 sec. @ 101.79 mph

ok, now im not really trying to knock on you guys and your 3k's but look at that price tag. i would rather spend about $10k on a good integra and another $5k on upgrades and turbo and BAM i have a much faster car than a VR4. honda and acura try to put these cars into the pocket books of every average joe. then the after market came along and noticed this. everyone might one a civic or integra, but not like mine. the reeason you can also see honda/acura in alot of these magazines is that how many companies out there can take a 4 cylinder and post times like they do. a 10 second civic for example. that is pretty amazing. and how many cylinders does the 3k have? that's why.

[integralover]

not to start an argument, just an opinion