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04-21-2004, 12:04 AM
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I need some advice
I am a 16 year old male, 6'2 200lbs. I've been looking into taking the MSF course and then saving up to buy a sports bike. Now, I know I want a bike somewhere between 600-750cc. Because I want something that I can start off with, but I dont want to out grow it. And I know alot of ya'll probably think 16 is too young. But in my family, riding motorcycles are a common thing for the males in the family. Anyway, I also wanted advice on what kind of gear to buy. I live in florida, so you can guess what the weather is like. I am going to save and buy a sports bike in the price range of 2-3 thousand dollars. So maybe that will help. I am open to any manufacturer, I'm not really partial to any specific one. So please, give as much advice as you can handle. Greatly appreciated!
Anthony 
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#2
04-21-2004, 03:36 AM
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Re: I need some advice
You are going to be cramped on a 600cc (and probably even 750cc) bike. Take the MSF course, then I would probably buy a used SV1000, get used to the power and the feel of the bike. Then sell the SV, and buy a 1000cc sportbike. This will be your safest and best bet.
Gear, look for a brand name helmet (Arai, HJC, shoei), get a nice jacket (perforated leather or mesh with kevlar), and then decide if you really are going to be wearing more gear than that before buying more.
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......or if your a loser who drives a Civic with a type R sticker, racing stripes, blasting really bad rap music through your suburban area with your pretentious "I’m 21 but I’m still in high school girlfriend" while driving with your hand up on the top of the steering wheel exposing your underdeveloped pasty white vitamin deficient arm and wearing your backwards BS upside down visor hat while feeling the tacky as a "Florida vacation" single diamond earring in your ear, If you are this person...with any luck the sun in its precise celestial positioning as you putter on by...will reflect its scorching rays into your earring, bouncing intensely in your rearview, and finally making contact with your eyes through the thin cheap lense of $5 gas station Oakley rip off glasses.. then burning your retnal cones into smoldering melting gobs of ocular material as you are blinded by the purest form of energy in our known universe, and as you scream no one can help or hear you because they don’t know what’s going on since the weed whacker sound of your shitty tiny little muffler which makes the Civic sound like a 747 rages on underneath making everyone turn at disgust and comment to thier husbands or wives how much of a dickweed you are by attaching that automotive abnormality to your stock economical daily driver engineered by Japanese Automotive specialists to fit the needs for entry level business workers in their early 30's, however your pathetic looking $11,000 car which you want to look like a friggin spaceship with redundant ground effects is now out of control since you are blinded, and as your car plunges off the side of a cliff while you scream in the purest form of terror while knowing you have lived a horrid excuse for a life, by doing the bare minimum in every facet of existence, while getting fired from one pathetic job to another, the majority of your time spent slacking smoking dope, getting kicked out of school, polishing your "game" on sweet innocent underage girls you eventually 'de flower' through exhaustive yet succesful attempts to get the date rapist drugs you have stashed in the glove compartment, into your poor victims drinks while offering them to take the "Pepsi Challenge" while making your mother hate you, and your poor father who wishes he had a daughter instead of your pathetic ass, since a girl would be more of a man than you ever were, like the occasion when you were hit in the arm by a wild pitch in little league, then you cried like a fat kid who dropped his ice cream cone, I'm already envisioning you impacting the rocks below, in a spectacular fireball ignited from the residue hairspray from your girlfriend plastered in the fabric passenger seat, blinded by your earring, deafened by the loud "Bling Blingin", and I will smile and roll around on the ground in orgasmic delight while you are consumed by flames whose intense heat and fury will liquefy your bone marrow that I will use to make jelly beans out of and eat them happily at your funeral as midgets dressed like Alex 6005321 from "A Clockwork Orange" dance around your coffin to loud industrial style techno music and strobe lights, and I will sleep soundly at night knowing another successful conquest of Darwinism has been attained.
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04-21-2004, 07:27 AM
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Re: Re: I need some advice
My dad is 6'4" and is fairly comfortable on his VFR800 Interceptor. If he didn't have so many back/back-related problems, he could probably get away with a 600 such as the F4i which is a relatively relaxed bike.
I wouldn't go for the 1000, to be honest. There are other options, although they won't be perfect, they can last you for a few years until you find a bike you can really be comfortable on.
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04-21-2004, 02:31 PM
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Re: Re: I need some advice
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......or if your a loser who drives a Civic with a type R sticker, racing stripes, blasting really bad rap music through your suburban area with your pretentious "I’m 21 but I’m still in high school girlfriend" while driving with your hand up on the top of the steering wheel exposing your underdeveloped pasty white vitamin deficient arm and wearing your backwards BS upside down visor hat while feeling the tacky as a "Florida vacation" single diamond earring in your ear, If you are this person...with any luck the sun in its precise celestial positioning as you putter on by...will reflect its scorching rays into your earring, bouncing intensely in your rearview, and finally making contact with your eyes through the thin cheap lense of $5 gas station Oakley rip off glasses.. then burning your retnal cones into smoldering melting gobs of ocular material as you are blinded by the purest form of energy in our known universe, and as you scream no one can help or hear you because they don’t know what’s going on since the weed whacker sound of your shitty tiny little muffler which makes the Civic sound like a 747 rages on underneath making everyone turn at disgust and comment to thier husbands or wives how much of a dickweed you are by attaching that automotive abnormality to your stock economical daily driver engineered by Japanese Automotive specialists to fit the needs for entry level business workers in their early 30's, however your pathetic looking $11,000 car which you want to look like a friggin spaceship with redundant ground effects is now out of control since you are blinded, and as your car plunges off the side of a cliff while you scream in the purest form of terror while knowing you have lived a horrid excuse for a life, by doing the bare minimum in every facet of existence, while getting fired from one pathetic job to another, the majority of your time spent slacking smoking dope, getting kicked out of school, polishing your "game" on sweet innocent underage girls you eventually 'de flower' through exhaustive yet succesful attempts to get the date rapist drugs you have stashed in the glove compartment, into your poor victims drinks while offering them to take the "Pepsi Challenge" while making your mother hate you, and your poor father who wishes he had a daughter instead of your pathetic ass, since a girl would be more of a man than you ever were, like the occasion when you were hit in the arm by a wild pitch in little league, then you cried like a fat kid who dropped his ice cream cone, I'm already envisioning you impacting the rocks below, in a spectacular fireball ignited from the residue hairspray from your girlfriend plastered in the fabric passenger seat, blinded by your earring, deafened by the loud "Bling Blingin", and I will smile and roll around on the ground in orgasmic delight while you are consumed by flames whose intense heat and fury will liquefy your bone marrow that I will use to make jelly beans out of and eat them happily at your funeral as midgets dressed like Alex 6005321 from "A Clockwork Orange" dance around your coffin to loud industrial style techno music and strobe lights, and I will sleep soundly at night knowing another successful conquest of Darwinism has been attained.
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#7
04-22-2004, 12:29 AM
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Re: I need some advice
Well, I'm really leaning towards a sports bike, dont want to get distracted with cruisers. Plus I dont want to save up and buy something I truly dont want. I have found nice reliable bikes in my price range, lots actually. Just wondering about narrowing it down to bikes that people have rode or own and can tell me a little about. Thanks for the advice everyone. Feel free to give more (till your blue in the face) I am checking this message board on a regular basis so hopefully i can ensure a quick response on my part. I am going on a trip tomorrow, but i will try to get to a computer to check this board as much as possible. Thank you all, I really really appreciate the insight.
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#8
04-22-2004, 01:32 AM
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Re: I need some advice
for instance, check this out
http://adcache.cycletrader.com/5/5/4/69960254.htm I've really been thinking about getting a katana. cc's i'm not 100% sure of yet but they seem comfortable. A friend of mine has a katana 650 and I rode on the back with him and it was a very comfortable ride. He let me check out the front seat ( not driving) and it seemed nice. What do ya'll think about a katana? Good...Bad??? Give me your advice.
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#9
04-22-2004, 01:52 AM
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Re: Re: I need some advice
While the Katana (or Kat as you'll sometimes hear) is often "bashed" for it's lack of power as a 600, it's still 2 wheels with a lot less weight than a car, and it will still MOVE. Some generations are not known for good service, but off the top of my head, I couldn't say what years are good/bad/or ugly.
The Suzuki Katana has a VERY relaxed seating position. Heck, if you want to hunt for a bike, you could get a Yamaha Seca II. It's VERY upright for me at 5'10", and while my dad wouldn't pick it for a bike of his own, he can ride it without wanting to die from being cramped up on it. The R6 is going to be a VERY bad idea b/c it's a small bike to start, and it only gets worse as you get taller. The F4i was a very comfortable bike, IMHO. Again, I am 5'10" and I would really consider it for my next bike (being realistic).
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Like a boy - but BETTER! 2005 Subaru Forester 2.5X 1997 Honda Civic EX Coupe Inform yourself: AF User Guidelines
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#10
04-22-2004, 02:02 AM
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Re: I need some advice
Yamah Seca II, very beautiful bike, and your right about it being upright. But i like it. The only thing i disliked was that the 90s models (which i didnt look at anything newer) dont have the full sports bike cover. Its not covered on the sides near the bottor. But very beautiful and will consider this bike when my wallet is full. Thank you saturntangerine you have been very helpful. If you can think of any sports bikes 90's models 2-3 thousand, 600-750cc, bikes like the seca II, please let me know. You seem to know alot about this. Thank you very very much!
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#11
04-22-2004, 02:08 AM
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Re: Re: I need some advice
The Seca II has an optional "lower fairing" so it doesn't look QUITE as naked. Just something to remember.
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Like a boy - but BETTER! 2005 Subaru Forester 2.5X 1997 Honda Civic EX Coupe Inform yourself: AF User Guidelines
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04-22-2004, 01:01 PM
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Re: I need some advice
The lower fairing is sometimes already on the bike, and sometimes you have to find one to purchase. MY Seca doesn't have the lower fairing, but I like it just the way it is. There is another Seca II in my hometown that has it, and it looks good as well. I'll see if I can dig up some pics somewhere. Now, it's not a full fairing by any means, but it covers up a lil more of the front end than just the half fairing that is on all of them.
Oh, I almost forgot. If you are interested in this bike, though it is a 600, it's very forgiving stock. Now, I have the full 4-1 Vance and Hines exhaust, I rejetted the carbs, and I removed the stock airbox, and there is a NOTICABLE change in the low end (I haven't adjusted the carbs properly to have a good top end yet). So, it's possible to get a lil more power out of it if/when you want it. The Seca II goes by MANY names. It is known as the Seca II, XJ600S, and in Europe, the Diversion. I searched a long time before I found one, but luckily b/c they are sort of the "odd duck" of the Yamaha family, the demand is relatively low, and so are prices. I found a pic of the Diversion (the Seca's name in Europe) with a lower fairing. http://www.tcpsa.com/yamaha/xjs600b.jpg
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