Is there a God??

[D[X]P]

Is there a God? A question asked by many people over time. Post your thoughts and questions.

My Questions

If God is there, why was he created? By who??
He could not have just been there.Someone of great power would have had to create god. And then why if he/she/it already has such devastating power.

If God is in everything everywhere, then he is also evil.If he is in bad people he is evil.

If god knows everything then he knows how our lives will go on. He has set our destiny. So why does god make bad people like terrorists and killers??


More to follow


Let the Discussion begin

[MBTN]

No no no!!! Stop this at once. Seriously just go look up some old threads. This type of topic really isn't allowed here anymore.

[97civiclx]

yes it is. flaming isnt allowed.
first question i do not have an answer for.
second god is not in everything. he created everything.
i believe god does know everything about us. the reason i think we are here is to recieve a body and have the chance to grow and love god. if he created us perfect with no freewill then we will never love god on our own. i think god wanted us to love him like chidren love a father. terrorsists and killers made themselves to what they are god only created them. these are some of my thoughts moe to come. later

[ac427cpe]

read the book "angels and demons"

your questions are all ones that only the person asking can answer for him/herself. it comes down to what you are willing to, and want to believe.

[Joseph1082]

Ok, "God" itself is far beyond our comprehension... he is god, by definition he needs not a creator, he is the beginning of it all. He is all-knowing, all-power, he is infinite in everyway. He does not exist like we do, in finite dimentions (how ever many you believe there are).
The question of Free-will vs. Predestination is another question for another thread.
We are too simple to comprehend Good and Evil and the universe, and their role in it... perhaps those terorists are essential to the fabric of the continuum, how do we know. All we know is that this is how things are and we have to live w/ it.

[DGB454]

Originally Posted by D[X]P

Is there a God? A question asked by many people over time. Post your thoughts and questions.

My Questions

If God is there, why was he created? By who??

God is the creator. God doesn't have a creator.

He could not have just been there.Someone of great power would have had to create god. And then why if he/she/it already has such devastating power.

Why could he not have just been there? Some people accept that the universe was just there without a creator. They believe that the universe was always there or that it just appeared out of nowhere.

If God is in everything everywhere, then he is also evil.If he is in bad people he is evil.

He created people and gave them a free will. People make their own choices. They choose to be evil.

If god knows everything then he knows how our lives will go on. He has set our destiny. So why does god make bad people like terrorists and killers??

Free will.

[Raz_Kaz]

First of all, no matter how smart or wise you are, no one will ever be able to "understand" God and His ways. It's as if you were asking if an ant can try and understand us and our ways. I agree with the responses that He is not in everything bu can see everything. He created us and gave us a magnificent gift, the brain. The way one chooses to use it is upto them, and the reprocautions to those actions are dealt with in the after life by the Creator. If one follows biblical stories then they know that Damien (Lucifer, The Devil) was God's most handsome angel, God only created angels not demons and devils and such. That "angel" then become the angel of death who started evil and ever since there has been a struggle between good and evil, which will remain until the end of time. Now where it comes to preditermined death and such, that is very hard to categorise, because it's a question of faith vs faith. May sound silly butheres the faith where one believes that God determined there end day, and theres the other faith where one believes that they have possesion of their destiny.
Well thats all I have for now

[fajita23200]

Originally Posted by 97civiclx

yes it is. flaming isnt allowed.
first question i do not have an answer for.
second god is not in everything. he created everything.
i believe god does know everything about us. the reason i think we are here is to recieve a body and have the chance to grow and love god. if he created us perfect with no freewill then we will never love god on our own. i think god wanted us to love him like chidren love a father. terrorsists and killers made themselves to what they are god only created them. these are some of my thoughts moe to come. later

Yes,freewill is the key .

[D[X]P]

Originally Posted by DGB454

God is the creator. God doesn't have a creator.
Why could he not have just been there? Some people accept that the universe was just there without a creator. They believe that the universe was always there or that it just appeared out of nowhere.
He created people and gave them a free will. People make their own choices. They choose to be evil.
Free will.

Nothing can be just there. If there is a god, someone must have created him. If god knows everything, then he knows people's destinies. So therefore why would he have terrorists be born?

[KustmAce]

Originally Posted by D[X]P

Nothing can be just there. If there is a god, someone must have created him. If god knows everything, then he knows people's destinies. So therefore why would he have terrorists be born?

Terrorists are made, not born, and if he knows people's destinies, that has nothing to do with preventing terrorists. The key here is free will, if you will read the previos posts.

Secondly, if you want to go with "nothing can just be there", then God must have a creator correct? Then that creator must have a creator, and so on...If you cannot accept that someone/something has just been here the whole time, then there will be a never-ending list of "creators" to ponder.

[RedLightning]

Originally Posted by D[X]P

Nothing can be just there. If there is a god, someone must have created him. If god knows everything, then he knows people's destinies. So therefore why would he have terrorists be born?

well first if "nothing can be just there" then how the heck can i be typing this right now? b/c somehow i am here, i believe that it is because God made me, but even if he did not(but he did) still how would we be here how did the universe start b/c of what you said where did the dust or whatever evolutionists say started the universe come to be?

"So therefore why would he have terrorists be born?" agian free will, God does not want to controll us, he wont. Every see Bruce Almighty? When he was playing God, he was not able to make his chick freind love him, God wants us to love him of our free will.

[Prelewd]

You can't prove anything, I can't prove anything.. What's the use in trying?

[DGB454]

Originally Posted by D[X]P

Nothing can be just there. If there is a god, someone must have created him. If god knows everything, then he knows people's destinies. So therefore why would he have terrorists be born?

Some of this has already said but you asked so I will try and explain.

We think in terms of everything having a beginning and an end because that's all we know. We are physical beings and physical beings do have beginnings and endings. The same can be said for all physical things like the trees the earth and even the universe. God is a spiritual being. He isn't held to the same rules he set forth for us. He created us to be temporary. He created the universe to be temporary also. The only thing that is eternal is our spirit. I believe that's what is meant when the Bible speaks of Him creating us in his image. Believe me I know it's a bit confusing to think about how God was just always there. But is it any less confusing to think that the universe was just there? Or that the universe just created it'self ? Much like non-creationist believe that somehow the universe always was or that somehow it just came into existence I believe that God always was; even though it's a hard concept to grasp.

I believe you are right in assuming that God is all knowing and he knows ahead of time what our choices are going to be. He won't choose for us and usually he won't interfere with the choices we make. He will guide us in the right choices to make for those who believe in Him. So why would he create a person if He knows they are going to become a terrorist and kill many people? Again that's a hard concept to grasp. I believe he does it to be fair. He created that spirit and is giving it every chance not to do evil but in the end it's our free will and we make the choices ourselves.

Hopefully that helps. Sorry if it doesn't.

[Prelewd]

Originally Posted by DGB454

So why would he create a person if He knows they are going to become a terrorist and kill many people? Again that's a hard concept to grasp. I believe he does it to be fair. He created that spirit and is giving it every chance not to do evil but in the end it's our free will and we make the choices ourselves.

Without evil, there would be no good. But then again, what is considered evil, and what is considered good is relative to the person and what they believe in. I think there is a certain amount of innate morals in the human species that could be attributed to evolution, as well as religion. By the evolution attribution, I mean that we, as a species, need to know that it is bad to kill in order to survive. Theoretically, a caveman probably wouldn't have a problem killing.

One thing I don't understand is that Christianity and most other 'one-god' based relgions are fairly new in the history of man. Man made stories seem a little far fetched for me to believe in them.

"Many have made a trade of delusions and false miracles, deceiving the stupid multitude."
-Leonardo Da Vinci

[YogsVR4]

Originally Posted by Prelewd

"Many have made a trade of delusions and false miracles, deceiving the stupid multitude."
-Leonardo Da Vinci

An elitist who despised any and all who didn't believe the same as himself.

Truely a zeolot of another color.


I believe that there is a God. I hope to meet up one day. Should I be wrong, I'll never know. I am hoping I am given the chance to see the expressions on the face of a few who face God after dening Gods existence. Not that I'm suggesting that they be barred from heaven, but the expression will be quite amuzing I'm sure.