Why Ls vtec?

[Oldteg]

Why is it called LS vtec? What if I wanted to do it with my GS. Is there a difference? What will I need? What head could I use with my factory computer? I have a couple heads at my reach and I want to do the work myself. I just need to know what I need for my gs. I want it to be cheap cheap. Thanks.

[94tegRS]

ok, if you have a GS and want to have a LSVTEC with your stock ECU, and you dont know you can make a LSVTEC with the engine in your GS. you CANNOT do it yourself, PERIOD. yopu at least gotta know what you are doing in your mind before you do it in real life, and you got no clue, read about LSVTEC by doing a search for LSVTEC and then when you know whats going on with the swap ask some smart questions, cuz remember, no such thing as stupid questions, just stupid people.

[Oldteg]

Hey now, I have plenty of experience with cars, just not imports. I Know enough to get a 3750 pound car into the low 13's for next to nothing in cost. I was asking a basic question. You didnt answer my question so as far as i'm concerned you wasted my time and your own.

Ok, i'll ask others seeing how this guy can't help me. Is the GS motor the same as the LS? What would be the best head to use and can I use the stock ecu or will I have to use one out of a vtec car?

[94tegRS]

ok, first off, how did you get your 3750 pound car into the 13's for next to nothing in cost, buy it already running low low 14's and then set up for spray? ok, if you know about cars, you at least know that VTEC is a mechanical function that the computer controls, now you know your car doesnt have it, so you can pretty much assume your ECU wont control it(Ill just tell you NO you cant use your ECU) and about the head, a B16 is best because its probably the cheapest/easiest to aquire, and you can bolt up an ITR intake manifold to it if you want and theres more aftermarket manifodls for the B16/ITR heads. and the intake manifold flows better than the GSR one.

yes the GS has the same engine as the LS, as do the RS and SE. the B18B1.

ok just tell me one thing, do you know what you have to do to the head to get it onto the blokc and how to get oil to it? and if I wasted your time tough shit I guess, IM sure it tok you al of 10 seconds to read my post, and as far as wasting my time, typing a few lines takes almost no time so whatever. and actually most people will agree with me that everyone who comes to this thread and reads your stupid question, you just wasted THEIR time.

[94tegRS]

oh, and thre is something I forgot, you having a GS I shouldnyt assume B18B, if you have a first gen you have the B18A1.

[Oldteg]

Well, thank you for the answer I was looking for. I was just a little bit bent and took offense to someone telling me I have no knowledge. I don't have knowledge on hondas but as far as being a good wrench, that I am.

The car that I put into the low 13's pulled a 14.9 stock. 98 GTP to answer your question. look into the cars and you will see how cheap it is.

Now the b16, what car is that out of. I was under the influence that the b16 was a non vtec motor. I guess I am wrong. Do you have a link that I could read about this proceedure?

I want it to be cheap bceause I have $500 into the car now. (I manage the family dealership and stole the car on a trade.) Thanks and I apologize for being rude but I hope you can see where i might become frustrated.

[94tegRS]

the B16A and B are vtec, you wont get a B thogh because if you are trying to go cheap its probably the most expensive and for sure the hardest, none of them were EVER in the us but people have CTR swaps shipped here so eventually a head will be fore sale somewhere, but the B16A came in integras/CRX's/DEL SOLS/civic SI's, not all of these cars equipped wiht a B16 was available in the US either but seeing as the b18C didnt start until 94 and the B16A started back in 88 and was available in many more cars there much more plentiful.

I know there are alot of links and I used to have them in favorites but had to reinstall windows, I do know this one though b20vtec.com, it is a CRVTEC but same principle. also i think it is cspeedracing.com has a writeup on it.

[knorwj]

Originally Posted by 94tegRS

oh, and thre is something I forgot, you having a GS I shouldnyt assume B18B, if you have a first gen you have the B18A1.

B18A1 are from 2nd gen not first, I think 1st gen had 1.6 engines?
and the B18B are from third gen.

[98-ls]

if i was you i wouldnt do ls vtec on a small budget. you will end up spending a lot of money i the long run, if you want to keep this car

[94tegRS]

Originally Posted by knorwj

B18A1 are from 2nd gen not first, I think 1st gen had 1.6 engines?
and the B18B are from third gen.

OMG here I am being an ass and then I post some bum info, I dont know what I was thinking, cuz I SWEAR I know that was 2nd gens, too much on my mind right now I guess. and yeah, first gens have 1.6 liters, I think they are all the same DOHC D16A(6or8, not sure) but this I couldne be positive, dont really like the first gens so dont really read about them or anything. anyways, 98ls is right that you shouldnt do it on a tight budget cuz you cant really, you'll spend at least what you got into the car if not more for the swap with you doing all the labor, ECU/head/oil lines/dowel pins or redrill/ and ive never done the swap but im pretty sure you need the oil pump from a vtec engine and the water pump/t-belt from a vtec as well.

[Oldteg]

I have some good leads on the parts if I want because im in the buisness so it shouldn't be that much. I might even be able to get the head for free. Thanks for the info.

[KoRnboy]

Other than being able to say you have a RS/LS with VTEC why would you want it? I don't see what's so wrong with a B18A1? Sorry if I'm dragging this on I just don't see why you should spend money on that, why not use your connections to build and turbo it instead?

[94tegRS]

Originally Posted by KoRnboy

Other than being able to say you have a RS/LS with VTEC why would you want it?

maybe because it will be quite a bit faster than having a stock B18A1...

Originally Posted by KoRnboy

why not use your connections to build and turbo it instead?

LSVTEC is cheaper than turbo for sure.

[KoRnboy]

Cheaper, but in the long run, better?

[94tegRS]

depends, if he wants to be quick for cheap, then yes. if he wants to be HELLA fast then no, turbo would be better, but lots more, and he can always throw a turbo on the LSVTEC later on. saw a boosted LSVTEC 5th gen hatch, full interior, looked like his daily driver and he was hitting mid 11's. he was running slicks though but still.