is a base stealth faster than an es/rt

[duffman667]

i have been in my friends stealth quite a few times and everytime we go against and es/rt stealth we seem to be able to beat it and all he has on his car is a proflow exhaust and a slight tune up... i was just wondering what the hell is up with that. his car is an automatic and i was wondering if the es stealths just like weighed a shit load or something. would someone please inform me. thanks

[Amish_kid]

With a es or base model Stealth they are only fwd with 200 or 220 IIRC also the rt has a twin turbo 300 hp awd, so yeah you can pretty much figure out why he is losing to them.

[LjasonL]

Base models and ES's are rather slow. RT's aren't. If your friends base model is beating RT's, it's because the RT isn't racing.

[duffman667]

yeah i kind of figured they arent racing because i own a rt and i whoop him... so either they arent racing or their car just sucks. but thanks for telling me.

[2000LS1Z28]

A base stealth will make about ~fart~ horsepower. If people are losing in an R/T Twin turbo they dunno how to drive worth a bean. It's not surprsing though, cause alot of people have trouble driving a stick shift. People clowned me all the time for running a 2.3 sec. 60' at Speedway, then again I see people running 2.6 sec. 60' (My brother).

[LjasonL]

Originally Posted by 2000LS1Z28

A base stealth will make about ~fart~ horsepower. If people are losing in an R/T Twin turbo they dunno how to drive worth a bean. It's not surprsing though, cause alot of people have trouble driving a stick shift. People clowned me all the time for running a 2.3 sec. 60' at Speedway, then again I see people running 2.6 sec. 60' (My brother).

My best time was with a 2.3 60'

[Polygon]

Base/ES: 175HP
RT: 224HP
RT/TT: 300/320HP

So, he could run against an ES, but wouldn't stand a change against either RT.

[LjasonL]

I never knew there was a non turbo RT

[Polygon]

Neither did I until I beat one.

Then I had to ask a friend of mine who is pretty knowledgeable about the Stealth and 3000GT and he confirmed there is an RT non-turbo. It turns out his first Stealth was an RT.

[Raz_Kaz]

Actually the Base/ES has about 164Hp
and the RT/SL about 222
and the RT TT/VR-4 about 300 or 320 depending on first or second gen
Either way, the base/es model is in no way capable of beating an rt taking into consideration that both drivers know what the hell their doing

[Igovert500]

Ok, a few corrections are in order. First off, the R/T was not turbo, but the R/T TT stealth was.

Originally Posted by Raz_Kaz

Actually the Base/ES has about 164Hp
and the RT/SL about 222
and the RT TT/VR-4 about 300 or 320 depending on first or second gen
Either way, the base/es model is in no way capable of beating an rt taking into consideration that both drivers know what the hell their doing

Secondly the ES wasn't equivalent to the base(164hp), but rather the RT stealth and the SL 3000gt, with the 222hp 3.0 liter DOHC engine. They only made the ES 91-93.

To check out all years and models:
http://www.team3s.com/FAQ-Specs1.htm

The ES and normal R/Ts are mid to low 15 second cars with a good driver, if you are racing one of these (in a base 164hp SOHC) you should lose. If you race a R/T TT(13.5-14.1, depending if 91-93 or 94-96 respectively) you should be getting you ass handed to you.

[kingpinn]

my girl has a 93 es and that thing is fairly quick but to damn big 4200lbs but its ok i would say she could run a 15.8 thats stock ...just my take...

[Igovert500]

How is hers 4200? You sure you got that right?
The SL w/MT weighed 3280 lbs(roughly) SL w/ auto tranny = 3370 lbs Typically the stealths weighed less than the mitsubishi counterparts due to the features offered and different body styling.
My vr4 weighs near 3800, and that's with 2 turbos, intercooler, AWD, all wheel steering, and active aerodynamics, just to name a few of the reasons. So I sincerely doubt the car weighs 4200lbs, unless your weighing it with 4 passengers, some 12" subs, and the kitchen sink. People think these cars are extremely heavy, and granted they are heavier then most, but they aren't that bad.

[2000LS1Z28]

I believe my former stealth R/T Twin turbo weighed over 3700 pounds. Not a light car by far. Oh, and i'm positive it had a turbo too Sucker costed a fortune for an HKS B.O.V.

[Raz_Kaz]

Originally Posted by 2000LS1Z28

I believe my former stealth R/T Twin turbo weighed over 3700 pounds. Not a light car by far. Oh, and i'm positive it had a turbo too Sucker costed a fortune for an HKS B.O.V.

Actually both the 3000gt VR4 and the stealth R/T TT AWD weigh about the same for all years. There are some 100 lbs differences between the other models not exactly sure on what years and what models. Theoreticaly speaking, they are the same cars with different names and aerodynamic designs...other than that, same exact specs.