Could a stock 04 WRX STi beat these cars?

[94camaro6]

Could a stock 04 sti beat a Pontiac GTO, Camaro SS, Corvette (except z06), mustang mach 1 and cobra, trans am and a mitsubishi 3000GT

[Initial_D]

yes it could 04 Sti is vrey light car
last year I saw a race between 2002 STi VS mustang cobra 2001 , the cobra was no match for the 265hp ... and the new Sti is 300hp

[ragnarok720]

Depends on the year of gto, close race between an SS and corvette, my 02 beats mach 1's, will dominate trans-ams and 3000gt's.

[Igovert500]

What's the new STI run the quarter in? Ws6's and vr4s run it in 13.6. I think the STI is faster...I am just wondering by how much?

[dropmech]

Originally Posted by Initial_D

yes it could 04 Sti is vrey light car
last year I saw a race between 2002 STi VS mustang cobra 2001 , the cobra was no match for the 265hp ... and the new Sti is 300hp

Where did you see this race at? Unless the car was imported, or you were in a different country,you didn't see an American 2002 STi. No such car.

[ScobyWRX]

the US STi's will run 13.1 stock
darn nice too bad I ran out a bought a WRX when thay first came out

[LjasonL]

Actually there have been people getting 12.9's and 12.8's in stock STi's. Should be a pretty good match with a Vette or a Cobra.

[Calebz]

Originally Posted by dropmech

Where did you see this race at? Unless the car was imported, or you were in a different country,you didn't see an American 2002 STi. No such car.

Check the dude's profile.. he's in Qatar..I wondered the same thing Everybody gets the cool subarus before the US


OTOH, its not to hard to get older STi motors and such to make a US "STi"

I have a friend with a late 90's STi front cut sitting in his garage just waiting to be used

As to the original question, it was asked if an STi will 'beat' any of the other cars listed up there. That depends very much on what sort of race it is.. an STi will smoke any of those cars if used for its intended purpose. It is not a ricer street racer, it is not a muscle car, it is not a quarter mile car. Subaru has never produced cars for that. What they do produce cars for is rally and rallyX.. Used by a skilled driver for its intended use, a turbocharged subaru will be very competetive.

[FDTT]

The STi will beat all those cars on paper. But the problems come in who is driving. When the nubers are that close it is all about the driver of the car.

I have seen a fully stock 03 WRX beat a 04 STi. All due to driver experiance and familiarity with the car.

[Zwrangler]

Originally Posted by FDTT

The STi will beat all those cars on paper. But the problems come in who is driving. When the nubers are that close it is all about the driver of the car.

I have seen a fully stock 03 WRX beat a 04 STi. All due to driver experiance and familiarity with the car.

I don't know about the STI beating all those cars, I think you were a bit rash there. Yes the STI's are fast and run low 13's stock standard but
given the same driver with the same amount of skills in each car
then so do the camaro SS's, corvettes, some mitsubishi 3000's, and pontiac GTO. All the other cars would be easy to beat with an STI though.

[SabreKhan]

If we're talking about the quarter, the AWD and 300hp + 300ft-lbs is going to be really close with the affordable American muscle, as others have pointed out.
If, on the other hand, we're talking about an autocross or rally, the STi has an advantage.
If, on the other other hand, we're talking about an Autobahn/interstate drag or anything long and straight (drag racing on airfields, etc.), the muscle cars get to flex and roar. The V-8's curve catches up with the turbo four after awhile.
Hence no imports in NASCAR (though Toyota is breaking into trucks), as they are long and relatively straight power races. And no muscle cars in rally races, either. As Calebz has already stated, it depends on the race.

[F23A4Racer750IL]

Originally Posted by ragnarok720

Depends on the year of gto, close race between an SS and corvette, my 02 beats mach 1's, will dominate trans-ams and 3000gt's.

doesnt matter wat year GTO. it will beat any year espcecailly the old ones. the STi will have the most trouble wit the Cobra. it should be able to handle the rest of the cars listed.

[ragnarok720]

Um no...... a 65 gto with a 455 (was an option) and some radials will easily beat an 04 STi. Hell my gf's dad's 68 gto with a tired 400 sb runs 13.7's with radials all day.

[freakray]

Originally Posted by dropmech

Where did you see this race at? Unless the car was imported, or you were in a different country,you didn't see an American 2002 STi. No such car.

Maybe you should check where people are from before you challenging things they say.
Initial_D didn't say a US spec STI, he just said it was an STI, since he lives in the UAE it's very possible he did see an '02 STI run against a Mustang.

[F23A4Racer750IL]

Originally Posted by ragnarok720

Um no...... a 65 gto with a 455 (was an option) and some radials will easily beat an 04 STi. Hell my gf's dad's 68 gto with a tired 400 sb runs 13.7's with radials all day.

u say the 65 GTo will beat an STi but u havent provided wat 1/4 time it runs....