Engines

[street_racer]

alright, you are really gonna have to hang with me on this one. I know any type of Chevy, Ford, or any type of american made cars, engiens extremely well. like a 454 can put out more power than a 350. shit like that, but i am reall ignorant in Jap cars like Honda, Mitsibishi, Mazda, stuff like that, in their engines. so what i am tryin to ask if someone could tell me what engines put out more power. cause like honda's have some weird ass name engines like MRC-90 (i know thats not one), and shit like that. can you please tell me the difference and everything their is to know about these engienes.....thanks a bunch:apoke:

[Polygon]

I don't know much about the Asian engines as well. I do know that I prefer Toyota, Subaru, and Nissan over Honda any day of the week.

[street_racer]

why is that
:bandit:

[Doctor]

Honda have never brought out a turbo production car, but have very high revving variable valve timing as an advantage.

Mitsubishi came out with a series of 4 cyl called the MIVEC series, which is a normally aspirated engine, variable valve timing, that can rev to about 9 grand.

Subaru ie WRX and the like have a four cylinder boxer engine meaning not an inline 4 but a parralell four, hence the name boxer. Puts out around 160kw.

Toyota make very different types of engines from 1.6 4 cylc to 4 cyl 20 valve engines (4AGZE?) to the supra 6 cyl single & twin turbo (1JGZE?)

Nissan, the most powerful and respected japanese engine, the RB series, commonly found on a Skyline. RB20det (160kw,265nm), RB25det (187kw, 295nm) & the Godzilla engine itslef the RB26dett. (208kw, 368nm)
RB- Race Bread
20, 25 , 26- the capacity of the engine.
D- Double overhead cam
E- Electronic fuel injection
T- Turbo
TT- Twin turbo.

These engines are very diferent to your average 327cubic inch engine, these engines can rev to around 8000-9000 + every day, day after day.

hope this helps. I have owned many push rod type cars, 308 etc. But owning a Jap turbo car is the biggest rush of them all.

Ben

[Moppie]

Originally posted by Doctor
Honda have never brought out a turbo production car,

Not true.
Honda has made Turbo charged versions of the 1st gen CRX, the 3rd gen V6 accord/legend and the most famous the City Turbo.
However all these cars were only sold new in Japan so if you want one you had better find a friendly importer.


Nissan also has thier own version of VTEC avlaible in Japan and some other south pasfic markets on the SR16 and Sr20 range of engines.
Toyota also has just released it in the 1zzge engine in the new Celica.

Both Nissan and Toyota also make great V8 engines with very high spefic hp out puts, and impressive torque curves.

The Toyota 4age is one of the greatest engines ever made, and is possibly one of the most modified engine ever. Its been used in a huge and almost uncountable range of differnt models, and has been used in all forms of motor sport, from single seater Forumla pasfics to Dirt track cars.

[Doctor]

There you go you learn something new every day.

I totally forgot about the City.

Thanks for sharing your knowledge.

Have you ever seen the Jun SR20det and the Jun Supra. Now they are engines that I would love to have sitting in my engine bay. (not my skyline engine bay though)

Ben

[Hudson]

Originally posted by Moppie



Not true.
Honda has made Turbo charged versions of the 1st gen CRX, the 3rd gen V6 accord/legend and the most famous the City Turbo.
However all these cars were only sold new in Japan so if you want one you had better find a friendly importer.


Nissan also has thier own version of VTEC avlaible in Japan and some other south pasfic markets on the SR16 and Sr20 range of engines.
Toyota also has just released it in the 1zzge engine in the new Celica.

I don't recall a turbo CRX or Accord, but the Honda Legend was offered with a turbo 2.0L V6 and there was a turbo City. Nissan sold their variable valve timing system in the US as well as the other markets mentioned.

[TheMan5952]

Honda has as follows in Civic's: D-series is a single cam motor such as a d16a6
D:series
16: 1.6liter
A:Major revision
6:minor Revision
Or in the 6th generation (1996-2000) Si's a B16A2: Bseries is a Dual cam ususally Vtec motor. The B18B (integra LS motor), B20A & B20Z (CR-V) Motors are Non-Vtec

The Integra GS-R and Type-R motors are B18C1 for the GS-r and B18C5 for the Type-R.

The H22A(vtec) and H23A are Dual cam motors in the Prelude here and some Accords in Japan, and the F22A and F23A(vtec) are Single cam versions

Then there are the new K series motors which spin the other direction of the D,B,H, and F series motors which have I-Vtec


This is based off my knowledge, it my be wrong or right. correct me as I am wrong.

[street_racer]

alright, you guys have been a been a big help, thanks a bunch....today i rode in my friends ( he is 17) 99 Eclipse GST (GTS ? i think its GST) and i fuckin loved it. Its got a turbo in it and some little mods to the engine but whenever you rev that fuker up you can hear the turbo whistle. I love it, then we got up to 100 and i was just like damn, this is phat. Then we got up 140 (my first time) and my adrenaline was fuckin sky high, it was so awesome. finally he kicked that thing up to 160 and the whole car was shaking, i loved every second of it, it was fuckin cool..

[TheMan5952]

Yea, I like the GSX Eclipse's better though. Your friends is turb but only front wheel drive, my friend has a GSX, they are All Whell Drive, they grip so good on the road.

[street_racer]

I like em too, man i am sittin here on the computer tryin to do my spanish homework, its 10:34, but i fukin cant, all i can think about is cars, thats all i ever think about (besides pink, bald tacos ) but what do all those symbols and letters mean on a car, like i know t= turbo, tt=twin turbo, but what bout every thing else ? is each car got different letters for different meanings or what ? alright thanks

[street_racer]

aight, whats the difference from a cold air intake and a regular air intake ? which one is better and shit ? also does anyone know a good site to go and learn all about these engines, maybe see some pics ?? thanks

[SaabJohan]

Cold air is best. With cold air it will be much harder to get the engine to knock - this means more hp and lower fuel consumtion.

Don't forget about the turboengines Honda is building for CART and the engines they built for F1 under the eighties. In 1987 they had 58 psi boost pressure, 1.5 litre V6 engines with 994hp.

[JBL85]

while talking about engines. I want to drop a RB25DET into my 1986 300zx, Doctor, you seemed to know a lot about the engines....do you think it would fit....i am getting the tranny with the motor....so if you know let me know