Automotive Forums .com - the leading automotive community online! Automotive Forums .com - the leading automotive community online!
Automotive Forums .com - the leading automotive community online! 
-
Latest | 0 Rplys

Stop Feeding Overpriced Junk to Your Dogs!

GET HEALTHY AFFORDABLE DOG FOOD
DEVELOPED BY THE AUTOMOTIVEFORUMS.COM FOUNDER & THE TOP AMERICAN BULLDOG BREEDER IN THE WORLD THROUGH DECADES OF EXPERIENCE. WE KNOW DOGS.
CONSUMED BY HUNDREDS OF GRAND FUTURE AMERICAN BULLDOGS FOR YEARS.
NOW AVAILABLE TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC FOR THE FIRST TIME
PROPER NUTRITION FOR ALL BREEDS & AGES
TRY GRAND FUTURE AIR DRIED BEEF DOG FOOD
Go Back   Automotive Forums .com Car Chat > Chevrolet > S-10
Register FAQ Community Arcade Calendar
Reply Show Printable Version Show Printable Version | Email this Page Email this Page | Subscription Subscribe to this Thread
 
Thread Tools
Old 03-27-2004, 10:45 AM   #1
djg372
AF Newbie
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Stockton, California
Posts: 7
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Question S-10 Warmup and Stall

Hello All....

My vehicle is a 1987 Chevy S-10 Pickup
2.8 litre V-6
Throttle Body Injection
5 Speed Manual Transmission

I have read several posts related to this type of problem
and am having similar symptoms and have replaced a few
parts but to no avail.

SYMPTOMS:
S-10 Starts and runs fine (Weather/Temp Not a factor)
S-10 Runs until approximately normal temp then stalls and will not start
S-10 Cranks but NO fuel flow
S-10 Sits for awhile (long enough for engine to cool down) then
starts and runs fine again until normal operating temp is
reached and then it repeats the same stalling scenario.

REPLACED:
Fuel Pump (inside fuel tank)
Fuel Strainer (inside fuel tank)
Fuel Filter
Oil/Fuel Sensor/Switch
Checked Wiring to fuel pump (ok)

I also recently replaced the alternator and sending unit for the
temp gauge.

Also the engine is NOT overheated when it stalls but it seems
like something is making the thing THINK it's overheating and
shutting down the fuel.

Any help would be appreciated!!! Getting real frustrated over
this one.......

Dave
djg372 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-01-2004, 01:13 AM   #2
djg372
AF Newbie
Thread starter
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Stockton, California
Posts: 7
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Addendum

I just replaced:

1. Ignition Module
2. MAP Sensor

Now it won't start at all unless I spray starter fluid
into the carburator. Of course it don't keep running
but this proves it has spark. But, the injectors have
stopped working. DUH.... What am I missing here?

Dave
djg372 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-03-2004, 01:15 AM   #3
djg372
AF Newbie
Thread starter
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Stockton, California
Posts: 7
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Fixed It!

Anyone that happens to read this......

I replaced the Ignition Module and it resolved the problem.

When I romoved the old module I noticed a photo cell on
it and looking closely at the cell I noticed it appeared scorched
in that area. Pretty obvious clue.....

Maybe someone else will benifit from this discovery.

Thanks
DAve
djg372 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-03-2004, 09:33 AM   #4
rharmon
AF Newbie
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Laramie, Wyoming
Posts: 44
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I had this problem about 2 weeks ago. Turned out to be the ignition module also. It took the GM dealership a day and a half to find this problem...oh well it runs excellent now.
rharmon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-02-2004, 04:40 PM   #5
danielmc
AF Newbie
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: fort lewis, Washington
Posts: 16
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Re: S-10 Warmup and Stall

it is you injector it will cost you around $300
I had it haped about two months ago, and don't bring it to a dealer or you will pay $500 just for the injuector, not including the labor
danielmc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-12-2004, 06:38 PM   #6
VicFett
AF Newbie
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Phoenix, Arizona
Posts: 18
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Was it tested?

I took the ignition control module to a place and had it tested. The testing said that it was fine. Problem here is this, It's an intermitten problem. Doesn't happen all the time, so basically, did it just so happen to be fine when it was tested? This is what i'm wondering. I'd hate to spend 30 bucks and change it out and it tested just fine. It is old, 1988 s10 4.3 vin Z. I knew that I should have bought that Typhoon!
Then it would be worth the effort to spend time on.
VicFett is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-12-2004, 07:06 PM   #7
E_C_M-town
AF Newbie
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: morristown, Tennessee
Posts: 20
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Re: S-10 Warmup and Stall

worst case scenario, buy it and if is still not fixed take the new one back
E_C_M-town is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-13-2004, 10:32 AM   #8
VicFett
AF Newbie
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Phoenix, Arizona
Posts: 18
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Lightbulb Problem solved..I Hope

After changing out all those parts and shelling out some serious cash that I really could have used on something else, I think that I figured it out.
Now I was thinking about this constantly, I would even take it to work until finally my Boss asked me "What day is it?" And I didn't know. This is how involved I got over this problem. My Girlfriend was starting to get worried, and so was I! I drove home from a test drive and again, it began to stall. So I didn't give it time to mellow out. I instantly jumped out of my blaze and popped the hood and caught it while the thing was sputtering...I ripped off the air filter assembly and got my face right over the TBI unit. I wanted to see if this was a fuel dillivery issue or not for once and for all. Plenty of fuel shooting from my beloved fuel injectors. I then thought...With everything that I have replaced, why is it still doing this? Then I decided to do what I have always put off in doing, And thats buying a timing gun. I checked it out and noticed that my timing was off. I stayed up the entire night cleaning parts and finally got to fixing the timing. I test drove it right after and "P0Of!" It didn't stall...Not even once! Have I solved the riddle? Quite possibly! Funds dictate that if I didn't solve the riddle soon, I'd have to show up at wal-mart for a bicycle innertube PDQ! I drove around town..Stopped, took off, stopped and took off many many times and not one stall. So I tip toed through the kitchen not bothering the cat, he snored and he dreamt like a snooty little rat. I climbed into the shower and washed as I hummed, I was one happy camper, not a bike riding bum. I now type with my burnt fingers, the manifold was very hot, The distributor zapped me, but it did wake me op....Uh, up. Well, I had to make it ring didn't i?
I hope this helps you guys out. I know that many times when we ask questions about a car problem, some people will find a fix and not share it because they are now happily on their way. But, I could not do this to you all. Now, this may not fix your problem, But It sure is worth a try.
Stay faithful to the Blaze!
It's not a question of it ever running again, It's a question of how many more naked chicks you can get into the back of the blazer with the back seats down. OOOoooowwwww!
VicFett is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-14-2004, 05:42 PM   #9
VicFett
AF Newbie
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Phoenix, Arizona
Posts: 18
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
timing wasn't the prob!

Well, i'm back to inform that timing wasn't the issue. I'm back to a stalling blazer and also of course, back to square one.
VicFett is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-15-2004, 12:33 AM   #10
VicFett
AF Newbie
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Phoenix, Arizona
Posts: 18
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Icm

Ignition Control Module. I just bought a new one and test drove it. I think that this is a winner. Tomorrow is the real test...Driving out in this arizona heat during the day. If everything goes ok, I will come back to this site and let everybody know. It's been a costly journey, I'm just hoping that I can now journey down these Arizona Highways without stalling out.
Bus'it!
VicFett is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-15-2004, 03:46 PM   #11
VicFett
AF Newbie
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Phoenix, Arizona
Posts: 18
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Nope. ignition control module not it..

Don't waste your time, the ignition control module isn't the problem. I'm just glad that i get to take it back and get a refund for it.
At my wits end. Any possible help would be greatly appreciated on this.
Like I stated before in another post, this is my only vehicle and it looks like i'm going to be missing a whole hell lot of hours at work.
I drive it for about 6 to 10 miles and when I come up to a stop light, I then take off on the green and it sputters and stalls.
Replaced:
Fuel filter
EGR valve
spark plugs and wires
distributor cap and rotor
ignition module
oil pressure sensor.
1988 4.3 s10 blazer Vin Z
VicFett is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-20-2004, 10:14 AM   #12
jdk2269
AF Newbie
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: orlando, Florida
Posts: 14
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Send a message via AIM to jdk2269
Re: S-10 Warmup and Stall

Did you check to see if the distributor itself is not nfact cracked.... This is the problem i am having now.
jdk2269 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-20-2004, 08:16 PM   #13
McClure77
AF Newbie
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Santa Clara, California
Posts: 4
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Sounds familar

This sounds just like my problem (see post warm engine stuttering/stalling)
I guess whoever figures it out first gets first prize!
McClure77 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-21-2004, 03:52 PM   #14
VicFett
AF Newbie
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Phoenix, Arizona
Posts: 18
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
It's oil pressure..

My problem is an oil pressure issue. When the oil pressure falls to a certain point, it will save itself and shut down. At first I didn't know what was going on because my oil pressure sensor was broken and not working. I changed to a new one and found out what was going on. I thought that it was my fuel pump, but I just changed that out lastnight which took 8 hours to do. A word of warning...If you plan on changing out the fuel pump and it's inside of the tank. Save yourself alot of heart ache and drain the tank all the way. Any amount hurts, believe me. I thought that anything under a quarter tank would be enough. I was wrong. I changed mine out by myself. I don't know how I did it, It is definitely a two man job. I've also had my fill of being my own mechanic, It's hopefully off to the shop this friday. I'm out of here.
Take care all and thanks for all of your help and suggestions.
VicFett is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-22-2004, 10:10 AM   #15
chris2000s10
AF Newbie
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: New Windsor, New York
Posts: 24
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Re: S-10 Warmup and Stall

9 out of ten times it is either the module or crank sensor
chris2000s10 is offline   Reply With Quote
 
Reply

POST REPLY TO THIS THREAD

Go Back   Automotive Forums .com Car Chat > Chevrolet > S-10


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:39 PM.

Community Participation Guidelines | How to use your User Control Panel

Powered by: vBulletin | Copyright Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
 
 
no new posts