Tough Race question

[Robs71Nova]

Hey guys. I am pretty regular on the nova and corvette forums, because I own a 71 nova, and a 69 vette that I am in the process of restoring, but I have always liked camaros and I drop in on this forum from time to time just to whats crackin. Now comes to my question. My everyday driver is a 2001 Ws6 Trans am with the Ram Air package, and I was just wondering how that would stack up against one of the SS camaros with the Ram Air and Ls1 engine. I know alot of it would have to do with the driver, because the power ratings on the cars are just about identical, but is there one little thing that would turn the scale one way or the other? Any questions you might have on the Ws6 I would be more then happy to answer. Also the Trans am I own is a 4 speed automatic with the 3.42 gears (I realize its not the six speed everyone covets but I have raced 6 speed Ws6 Trans ams and I have yet to lose to one so I feel they are overrated.) Any opinions you guys have would be greatly appreciated bcause you all seem like knowledgable car guys. Thanks for your time.

Rob

PS. In case your wondering, Both my Nova and Corvette will blow the paint off the Ws6 And i have pics of all my cars on Aim or i can email them to you.. i tried putting them on the sight but the images are to large to put on.

[FormulaLT1]

The WS6 is about dead even with the SS and its basically the same exact car so its just a driver's race and from a dead stop auto Trans Am and Z28's walk the 6 speed's but from a roll and top speed 6 speed's usually pull and if your need me to crop your pic's and down size them let me know

[z28 boy]

there is only one problem with the post. an A4 has stock 3.23's and a stock M6 has 3.42's. so if ur A4 has aftermarket 3.42's then i think that the A4 would win. because the A4 will shift more precise and quicker. here the cars are on a level playing field having everything the same. M6 cars usually have the better gears to make up the time lost in between shifts but with the same gears the A4 seems to have an advantage. as it will accelerate the same but shut more efficiently.

[FormulaLT1]

While I do agree that a 6 speed will take a auto with the 2.73 gears , the gear difference between 3.23 and 3.42 is so minimal that 9 times out of ten from a dead stop the Auto wins and when your competing with a excellent driver which everyone likes to think they are it makes it much more difficult but still possible yet throw some 3.73's or 4.11's in the 6 speed and now you need to swap to stand a chance

[Robs71Nova]

Hey. Thanks for you alls responses. Please do tell me how to crop the images down Formula. I have been playing with it for a while but I am not very "computer literate". Also after reading the thing with the stock A4s having 3.23 gears.. I went back and looked at the sticker from when i first bought the car and it lists all the options, and it has 3.42 gears under the extra options side.. so i may have unknowingly gotten the 3.42 gears when i bought the car not knowing there was a difference??? I am pretty confused on the whole gear thing, but I know my A4 has 3.42 gears. Once again, thanks for the feedback and I would very much like to know how to make my images smaller so I can put them on here.. as I recall when I was putting mine on there was an 80kb size limit, and all of my pictures are around the 500kb size. Well thanks again.

Rob

[FormulaLT1]

You need to photo editing software which I have so if you would like rto email me the pictures at [email protected] I can edit them to make them smaller after I crop them and email them back to you

[Robs71Nova]

Thanks for your help formula. I will send 2 or 3 pictures of each vehicle and I will leave it up to you to choose which ever ones come out the best. I wil not be able to mail the pictures until tonight, however, because im at work for the next 12 hours. Thanks again.

[FormulaLT1]

No Problem

[89IROC&RS]

in order to resize images, right click, then click on edit. then go up to image from the task bar, and click stretch/screw, and resize the dimentions to the proper size, in percentages, youll have to play with it. save the image under a new name, and bam, your done.

oh and bad ass rides man, im a bit jealous of all the chevy iron parked in your driveway.

as far as the camaro vs firebird, yeah they are nearly the same vehicle. but from what ive seen and read, the WS6 is worth a few tenths in the quarter, and personally, even as a die hard camaro guy, i like the muscular curved lines of the WS6 over those of the camaro of the same year.

[matt_SS]

Whoever you were racing must not know how to drive a stick because every automatic ls1 I've raced i beat.

[Robs71Nova]

Hey, Thanks 89 Iroc. I am a definite Chevy guy through and through. I will try messing with that tonight as son as I get off of work, and if I can not get it I will send them Formula. I really want to get the pictures up here because I am pretty sure there are some skeptics out there that dont believe I have all the cars I mentioned. The Nova is my baby because a 71 Nova was my very first car and I am now fortunate enough to own another one. The Corvette is the fastest of all three with a 461 CU big block (454 .30 over), built turbo 350 and a set of 4.11 gears. The drivetrain on the Vette is completely finished and the interior is decent. I am in the process of stripping the Vette and it is getting a new ragtop put on it, but it is fairly close to being finished. I will finish stripping it over the next month or so and when summer hits in full swing I am going to spray it. The Nova has a 385 stroker motor (same as 383 but bored .40 over instead or .30, just to be a little different.) I realize I am posting on these topics pretty regularly, but when you work 16 hour shifts there isnt much else to do.. I will definitely mess with those pictures tonight, however. I hope I didnt insult anyones intelligence by posting the motor numbers, But I just like being thourough. Thanks again for all of your responses.

Rob

[Joseph1082]

I would think the stick is faster than the auto... having owned both, i hate the 4l60e. It only has two usable gears... 1st and 2nd. Third gear is a 1 ratio and forth is overdrive with a .70 ratio, both sluggish ratios. The only gear the auto has on the stick is first, it has a 3.06 while m6 has 2.66. Second is 1.63 vs 1.78... you get the idea, so how the hell can the auto be faster w/o defying the laws of physics?

[89IROC&RS]

well, i know that were talking street trannies here, but without getting into specifics, you ever notice that EVERY serious drag race car, other than funny cars and top fuel diggers (cuz they have no transmitions at all) use CO2 power shifted automatics???? and no manuals anywhere in the feild???? just something to think about.

[Robs71Nova]

Ill tell you how the A4 can be faster then the m6 without defying the laws of physics. Skill. Driving the m6 takes much more skill then driving the A4, and although alot of people think the have skill, many of them dont. Anyway i think this post is getting a little off track. I was curious as to if you lined a m6 ls1 trans am and a m6 ls1 SS , and vice versa with the automatics, which one would be faster?


Rob

[89IROC&RS]

as i said before, from what ive seen the firechicken is a few tenths faster, and some people argue that the style of the ram air hood on the TA is more efficient than that of the SS and adds a few ponies, other than that, they are pretty much as close to twins as you can get.