my age differences topic

[spectreofsorrow]

well thanks guys for giving me the same hurtful comments i always get.

in response to many of your retorts...

no, i hasten to add,i,m not bullshiting. this was a genuine question and i was genunily interested what the general consensus was. evidently, u have clarifyed the bias and very subjective disiluusionment(sp) of everybody.

i DID think of her feelings,despite the fact she broke my heart. thats the problem. if i didnt care i would be confident.sometimes i wonder why i dont become an asshole.

no i dont want a slut, i want a girlfriend.toeventually marry etc

i wouldnt fuck her life up. like i said, she would run the relationship. she is independent,goes out to pubs HERSELF. she tarted going out when she was 12, i started when i was 18.

she is a goth, cares about ,more then nail polish.not to sound arogant or insolent, but there is difference in girls maturity, and she is very untypical of 13 (i think).

she is a virgin and doesnt intend to make love till 16.

i DONT want sex. i want someone i can love and who loves me.

i,m not doing any crap "mascaline" jobs. i,ll stick with my english degree, do a masters,write poetry and dream of having it printed and starting up a metal/classical fusion band.

i,m not a scumbag or a "future rapist".i would never defile a girl in the worst possible way. my self-esteem maybe in minus firgues but i have enough pride to counter such absurdity.

i have almost ZERO experience with girls. as far as i can my philosophically,intellectual,literature and spirtual maturity is skyrocketing high, while my "real world" and social maturity is like 10. i missed out on dating in my early teens because i,m a nerd and i want that life.

i dont hang around with 13 year old ppl. its a mix from 13-80 the pubs, clubs i go to. and no, NOONE likes me cause i,m older. i look about 16 anyway.

i HATE beer.i like vodka and jack daniels.

i,m one of the nicest ppl in the world. which is the problem too. girls want exciting ppl.which is why its so easy easy for assholes and other nice confident outgoing ppl to pull.


now i,m sorry if my ramblings have offended any. but i was very hurt by these responses. i tried to showmy character to u and u ignored it and jumped on her age. its notlike i have a chance with her or i only want young girls. ANY girl will do. and we lost our virginitys together with this 14 year old and we still good friends. she asked us 2 make love and SHE controlled me.how the hell is it about the "easier to control" dynamic? thats just as crap as sigmund freuds oedipus and its oppisite numbers dynamic.

anyway, once more my incoherent monologue may offend. i now take my leave.

[Oz]

OK dickhead. Let us explain it SLOWER and LOUDER for you.

Despite the fact that you think SHE is controlling the sex/relationship, the law has said in no uncertain terms that she has not reached sufficient maturity to make those decisions. So unless you had her parental consent, that counts as statuatory rape of a minor.

I don't give a flying fuck how much of a loser you are. Do something about it - other than pulling underage chicks.

Stop being such a sad sack of crap, pull yourself together, work out to look good and get into a good social scene.

[jon@af]

As I already said, whether you think she is right for you or not, in this case age DOES matter, and she is too young. You need to get involved with an activity of sorts and explore the possiblities of people your age. If you feel you are inadequate, wake up and smell the roses: there are a lot of people out there who act as though they are the cream of the crop but feel just as lowly as you, they are simply better at lying about it. Just believe in yourself and do something telling yourself you know you can do it instead of you think you can do it. As I said, and many others did, you'll only be hurting yourself, regardless of the way she acts or your intentions.

I'm sorry if some of the others may have offended you, but the topic you presented with the content as it was could only be expected to have as much impact as it did. I myself would not expect anything less of myself or any of the others who said what they did simply because of the morals that I know many of them have.

[Oz]

Sorry to go over your head, Jon. Moved to Stress Release and re-opened. If this was a non-issue it would not draw such heated comments back and forth. I feel it deserves to be discussed at length and the context of this forum is much more appropriate. PM me if theres any problems.

[jon@af]

That's fine, no problems mang I understand what you are saying.

[spectreofsorrow]

well i,m sorry mr moderator if my comments justify being called a dickhead and treated like a "sackof shit" but i dont think its fair to be harsh tosomeone whohas tried to be as civil as possible without compromising my integrity.

well i must say the education world is a pile of abhorent turd if a straight A student like myself is so stuiped. no that was not a boast. i always knew my qualifications met jack, which is why i passed them with zeroeffort.

plus my question was on a moral standpoint.not on a legal one which has more holes then a semi-permuable membrane .

and i have pulled myself together. you should have seen me when i was 15-16.i DID go the gym for a year, i DO go out. i can create a front when i go out. if i was a LOSER i would have died long ago.my willpower has got me through. alas, i cant make myself look good because i was born an ugly bastard but hey, life isnt what u make it. its all luck of the draw.


is there anything sinful or disqusting in wanting to be happy?

[jon@af]

actually, I believe life is what you make it; The day is as bad as you let it be and as good as you make it for yourself.

And, being ugly? I don't know how many beautiful women(at least in my area) I have seen with an ugly guy. If you've got a front for women, use it. On a moral platform, 13 is too young.

[Steel]

Originally Posted by spectreofsorrow

well i,m sorry mr moderator if my comments justify being called a dickhead and treated like a "sackof shit" but i dont think its fair to be harsh tosomeone whohas tried to be as civil as possible without compromising my integrity.


is there anything sinful or disqusting in wanting to be happy?

Life is harsh. Deal with it.

No there isn't anything sinful about wanting to be happy, but soemtimes it just doesnt happen. Deal with that too.

Let me try a different spin on this: Think back to when you were 13. You were a stupid kid, and didn't know shit for shit. Admit it. I was a stupid kid then too. Hell i'm 19 now, and i look back at when I was 17 and i know i was a stupid kid. And few years from now i'll look back to where I am now and say to myself "damn, i was just a stupid kid, but i thought I knew it all."

The fact that she's "goth" as you say just proves she's immature. She's just falling into a clique to fit in with the other goths. How many "goths" do you see past the age of 20 that aren't complete lifeless dugged out losers? She'll grow out of it.

This is the last time i'm going to say it: Get it out of your head. Tough shit if you don't like that answer to your problems, but you're not always going to get what you want. If you do end up making the dumb decision here, I hope you like getting cornholed in prison, because labeled child molestors are frowned upon in prison. You'll get assraped, and the guards will look away while it happens. That's the truth. Don't like it? Then put some serious thought into this.

[publicenemy137]

^ haha another great post steel.

I got a question, would you say a just turned 18 year old is too young for a 24 year old?? My friend is around 24 and wants to get with an 18 year old

BTW if you're looking for love, look for more mature women. I don't think 13 year old goth girls who go around pubs drinkin and making out with random men are trying to settle down.

[YogsVR4]

You can keep trying to justify your actions but you're going to get the same responses. GROW THE FUCK UP! Grow a pair and enter the world of an adult.

I don't give a rat fuck about your 'feelings' right now. You need to get away from that 13 year old and get some new friends. We all go through rough times with the opposite sex. Its not easy and we've all been crushed on multiple occasions. Its how you deal with it that shows your maturity level and right now you're acting like a whiney six year.

[HogieGT-R]

ok man valiant effort but seriously what did i say about it man we're telling you the truth as a both a moral and a judicial standpoint....if you don't like what we're telling you than try asking Michael Jackson or R.Kelly about it......the law doesn't give a fuck about if it's moral or not....it's illegal if you want such an age difference, why don't you go after a single older woman O_o

hell stop cradle robbing would you? get some common sense and stop thinking that "if there's grass on the field, play ball" , cuz that's still messed up civil or not

[Toksin]

Everyone's already said what I wanted to say, so I'll just reiterate.

Grow the fuck up. A 13 year old goth who goes to pubs is fucked up. Leave it alone. It's illegal. It's immoral. Get into the real world. Get women your age.

Sheesh.

Some people.

[kublah]

Originally Posted by spectreofsorrow

well thanks guys for giving me the same hurtful comments i always get.

Yet none of them seem to sink in I guess...

Call me old fashioned, but here's what I think.

-13 year old children do not belong in pubs, or in relationships with anyone outside of their immediate age group. That time in a person's life is for being a kid, going to school, and starting to figure out what kind of adult you want to be some day.

-The fact that this girl is already doing a lot of these things that are normally not reserved for people this age is really bad news for her and everyone who cares about her. Skipping all the kiddy stuff that she should be doing right now in deference to wearing lots of white makeup and black clothes is starting her down the road to a difficult adult life.

-Should you choose to do what you want and have some kind of romantic relationship with her, you are not helping her, you are making things worse. No matter what you may think about how mature she is, or how you wouldn't hurt her, doing this will doubtlessly hurt her more than you can even imagine right now.

-Having a relationship with this girl will not make you a happy person. It might make you feel a little better for a while, but you'll be doing nothing but continuing the same manner of self-destructive behavior that's gotten you where you are right now.

Not good. Stay the hell away...

[TheNotoriousMogg]

Heh this is you bud

Now please stop tryin to be prude,
Cause' hey little girl I'm feelin you
The way you do the things you do
Remind me of Red Riding Hood
Thats why im all up in yo grill
Even though your way to lil'
You must be a first grade student
The way you got to do those dittos

So baby gimme that toot toot
And gimme that beep beep
Ridin' in Little Tykes® cars
Swingin' on monkey bars
While im reported on the radio...

It's the remix to ignition
I rape little children
Mama rollin that stroller
got every man in here wishin
Sippin on milk and juice
Clingin' onto toy moose
It's the freakin weekend baby
I'm about to let this film loose

Bounce Bounce Bounce Bounce Bounce Bounce Bounce
Bounce Bounce Bounce Bounce Bounce Bounce Bounce

Now it's like rape yeah she wrote
Once I get you out them clothes
Privacy is on the door
Still they can hear my camera roar
I get this excited feelin
No more hopin and wishin
I'm bout to take my key
Stick it in your ignition

So baby gimme that toot toot
And gimme that beep beep
Ridin' in Little Tykes® cars
Swingin' on monkey bars
While im reported on the radio...

It's the remix to ignition
I rape little children
Mama rollin that stroller
got every man in here wishin
Sippin on milk and juice
Clingin' onto toy moose
It's the freakin weekend baby
I'm about to let this film loose

Just pill poppin in the cop car till later
I got caught on the spot
as if i should be complainin
Now i've got killers to my left
And whores on my right
We bring em both together we get beaten all night
Then after my time its the (soup kitchen)
And after the soup kitchen is the (nursing home)
And after the home you gotta (find a kid)
Then head take it to the room and rape him

can i get a toot toot
can i get a beep beep
Ridin' in Little Tykes® cars
Swingin' on monkey bars
While im reported on the radio...

It's the remix to ignition
I rape little children
Mama rollin that stroller
got every man in here wishin
Sippin on milk and juice
Clingin' onto toy moose
It's the freakin weekend baby
I'm about to let this film loose

It's the remix to ignition
I rape little children
Mama rollin that stroller
got every man in here wishin
Sippin on milk and juice
Clingin' onto toy moose
It's the freakin weekend baby
I'm about to let this film loose

Girl we off in this jeep
Foggin windows up
just so no one can see you
In the back of my truck
Bouncin up and down
playin with your toys
To the remix
As my reputations destroyed...

[TheNotoriousMogg]

here is another for you

Now I know I shouldn't do this but I'm a go and break off a little piece for the convicts

Now I'm not tryin to be rude
But hey girl how old are you
You must be in Elementary school
Because your tricycle's cool
But now I'm all up in jail
Cause I took you to my hotel
Put my camera up on the post
Shot till I ran out of film

Hook
If you're over 2 (2)
And under 18
Then come up to my floor
Leave your name at the door
I'll come and get you when I'm ready yo

Chorus
It's my last song before prison
Tryin' to avoid my conviction
If I don't I'll be in a sequal to The Shawshank Redemtion
I said are you 21
She said I don't know I'm drunk
I'm not checkin ID's if you're young then you are the one

Bounce...

It's gonna be muder she wrote
Once the jury sees my "show"
I'll just tell them I didn't know
Thought she was old just didn't grow
So now I'm wheelin' and I'm dealin'
Trying to hide the cameras in the ceiling
Maybe the judge won't know
I was lookin for some sexual healing

Hook

Chorus

Kool-aid poppin' they call me educator
Show them so many things
Call me a "mastur de bater"
I got cameras on my left
Cookies on my right
To enter in my room you must be under this height
Cause after this ho is the girl scout party
And after the party is the High School lobby
And if she's under 4 I gotta "tell her mommy"
Then take her to my room and I'll be her Barney

Hook

Chorus

We on BET
Bouncin to Bow Wow cuts
And I got B2K
In the back of by truck
Goin bouncy-bounce
Makin sounds and sounds
I'm a convict
But I'm payin them out

Jacko, give me some advice