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03-17-2004, 05:23 PM
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GTO vs GTO??!!
You guys know what would be a cool race...the 3000 GTO (VR4) goin against the 2004 Pontiac GTO! Since im more into the Import side, i'd go for the GTO (VR4), but as we all kno, it will depend on how good the driver is in each car. Since i hear alot about the Vr4 hittin mid 13s easily, i think the Vr4 should win. I forgot what the Pontiac GTO hits in 1/4 range. But I think that that would be one cool race....FOR ME..whats your guys' suggestions?
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#2
03-17-2004, 05:25 PM
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Re: GTO vs GTO??!!
The VR4 would murder the Pontiac... but then again I have not seen one run... only at D1GP... and it sounded mean!
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03-17-2004, 06:41 PM
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Please dear god dont start this again. I'm only going to say this once, because it's pretty much the same as arguing SS camaro vs VR4. It's a driver race, always has, always will be. If you dont know anything about the car(1viadrft) dont make statements like that. The new LS1 with the 6 bolt main is far from a slouch. It's statements like "the vr4 would murder the pontiac" that start flame wars from people who have a cob up their ass and can't take constructive criticism. But to answer the question, yes that would be a cool race.
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03-17-2004, 06:43 PM
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Re: GTO vs GTO??!!
Did you completely read my post? No? Well, shaddup then!
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03-17-2004, 10:51 PM
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Performance stats according to Fast Autos. net:
2004 Pontiac GTO 0-60 mph: 5.3 sec 0-100 mph: 12.9 sec Quarter Mile: 13.8 sec @ 103.8 mph Skidpad: .81g Top Speed: 160 mph Braking, 60-0 mph: 132 ft Slalom Speed: 63.4 mph 1999 Mitsubishi 3000GT VR4. 0-60 mph: 5.5 sec 0-100 mph: 14.0 sec Quarter Mile: 13.9 sec @ 102 mph Skidpad: .90g Top Speed: 160 mph Braking, 60-0 mph: 122 ft Slalom Speed: 63.7 mph Yep, driver's race. Though we must all remember that neither of these cars are true GTO's. The real GTO's are Ferraris. Namely the 250GTO and the 288GTO.
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03-17-2004, 11:27 PM
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Re: Re: GTO vs GTO??!!
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#9
03-17-2004, 11:39 PM
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Now that just isn't a true GTO, that is a truly beautiful car right there. Can't say it's my color preference but i would still take it.
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#10
03-18-2004, 02:54 AM
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R1-Rider, you have just tread on sacred ground for a diehard Tifosi like myself.
Gran Turismo Omologato, the suffix attached to the third evolution of the Ferrari tipo 250 Berlinetta chassis, was factory-speak for the fact that the 36 Ferrari 250GTO's built were built solely to homologate (Omologato) the cars for Grand Touring (Gran Turismo) competition. The two previous generations, the 250GT LWB "Tour de France" (so nicknamed because of the tipo's debut victory at the hands of Alfonso de Portago in 1956) and 250 SWB "Lusso" (a nickname carried over from the luxurious road cars) were fiercely competitive cars, but the 250GTO took all of the lessons learned from them and revamped the chassis and engine into a truly awe inspiring package which was then cloaked in bodywork considered by most if not all critics to be the most beautiful automobile of the postwar period. In the years 1962, 1963, and 1964, this car scored more international wins, more class victories, and more overall podiums than ANY other GT car before or since. It took Carrol Shelby's incredibly specialized Daytona Cobra coupes and a Ferrari factory boycott of sports car racing (due to the FIA's refusal to homologate the mid-engine 250LM as a GT car) in 1965 to end the reign of what was essentially a 9 year old design. And even with all of that, privateer teams like NART and Auto Belgique still carried the 250GTO to class wins at Spa-Francorchamps and the Nurburgring. I'm sorry to all the muscle car guys, but no dressed up Tempest/Le Mans option package NAMED AFTER THE FERRARI can lay claim to being the keeper of the GTO heritage. The GTO name is a FERRARI name. All other references are homage to history's most awe-inspiring and successful Grand Touring race car.  This is the true GTO. End of discussion.
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03-18-2004, 11:37 AM
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#12
03-18-2004, 12:56 PM
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Re: GTO vs GTO??!!
When you move to italy that may be true, meanwhile this is american, we like muscle.
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03-18-2004, 01:09 PM
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Re: Re: GTO vs GTO??!!
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Um... not all of us like MUSCLE... speak for yourself and the other Stang Maro drivers... I'd prefer a nice Japanese built car...
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03-18-2004, 02:20 PM
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the stats above are wrong. for the vr4 13.9 is for 1st gens. 13.5 is what 2nd gens run(constantly) and for the gto motor trend ran it at 13.62 in the 1/4, meaning this is a drivers race. just as the camaro has ran faster times so the gto can.
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03-18-2004, 02:31 PM
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Sorry but while you have the right to prefer the car you want you cannot dispute the facts: the original GTO cars are Ferraris. Layla made that very clear. And did the pontiac GTO even paticipated ever in a GT race?
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