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Old 03-06-2004, 07:14 AM
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'Everyone' believes in an Intelligent Creator .

To see if this statement is true, consider what the most ardent of Atheists had to say during the last few moments of their life :

Published in the Ft. Lauderdale, Florida 'News and Sun Sentinnel' newspaper . 1968. * :
Verbatim quotes by famous Atheists on their deathbeds :
1. Sir Walter Scott : " Now i know there is a heaven"
2. Taleran (french) :" I am suffering the pangs of the damned"
3. Adams : (tore his hair out as he repeatedly said :" Oh Christ, oh
Christ, Oh Christ....")
4. Voltaire :" I die abandoned by God and man" (the nurse by his bedside said that she would never watch another atheist die as long as she lived because it was too horrific for her)
5. Vollney kept screaming out :" My God my God, my God...." * till he
died)
6. Meravue :" Give me opium that i may not think of eternity"
7. Brown :" Devils are in the room dragging my soul to hell"
8. Newport :" Millions and millions of years will bring me no closer to the end of my torments. O, the unsufferable pains of hell, forever and forever".
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Old 03-06-2004, 11:59 AM
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Re: 'Everyone' believes in an Intelligent Creator .

Oh god damn it. Good lord not again...
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Re: 'Everyone' believes in an Intelligent Creator .

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To see if this statement is true, consider what the most ardent of Atheists had to say during the last few moments of their life :

Published in the Ft. Lauderdale, Florida 'News and Sun Sentinnel' newspaper . 1968. * :
Verbatim quotes by famous Atheists on their deathbeds :
1. Sir Walter Scott : " Now i know there is a heaven"
2. Taleran (french) :" I am suffering the pangs of the damned"
3. Adams : (tore his hair out as he repeatedly said :" Oh Christ, oh
Christ, Oh Christ....")
4. Voltaire :" I die abandoned by God and man" (the nurse by his bedside said that she would never watch another atheist die as long as she lived because it was too horrific for her)
5. Vollney kept screaming out :" My God my God, my God...." * till he
died)
6. Meravue :" Give me opium that i may not think of eternity"
7. Brown :" Devils are in the room dragging my soul to hell"
8. Newport :" Millions and millions of years will bring me no closer to the end of my torments. O, the unsufferable pains of hell, forever and forever".
Heaven and hell are commonly used words by atheists same with Chirsts name and yelling God so i must dismiss this. I have seen a priest die in a auto wreck he never said anything about god heaven or hell etc go figure lol.
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'Heaven and hell are commonly used words by atheists same with Chirsts name and yelling God so i must dismiss this. I
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RESPONSE: Sure they use God, Heaven, and Hell in their common daily talk...but all of these most faithful 'Atheists' were on their deathbeds pleading and crying out in desperation to God. Not just one at in state of dementia , but ALL 8 of them, as witnessed by others. Theres only one reason to keep denying ones Creator, and thats to go on living as that person desires which always involves some degree of immorality.

'I didnt reject The Creator due to lack of any evidence, but rather, it was due to my sexual mores ' --- Alduous Huxley (Darwins close Associate) .
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Old 03-06-2004, 02:29 PM
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Re: 'Everyone' believes in an Intelligent Creator .

I like rock music.
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Re: 'Everyone' believes in an Intelligent Creator .

I listen to the most satanic music ever created.. AC/DC. I PRAISE YOU OH GREAT LORD LUCIFER.

Wow, 8 athiests over the past thousand years have converted on their death bed. I guess I better start loving Jesus!

Dave, get a fucking spell checker to spell "suave" correctly, and take your bigotry and religious propaganda the fuck outta here.
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Come on, eversio, take it easy. But seriously dave, just let people believe in whatever they want, whether it's nothing or the devil. Why don't you make a thread titled "I believe in State Your Religion, what do you believe in?" You know, see what else is out there.
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Re: 'Everyone' believes in an Intelligent Creator .

No, see, its cool. He still likes me, because its one thing to love his friends, but another to love his enemy.

My enemies however..
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Re: 'Everyone' believes in an Intelligent Creator .

Heaven and hell can be used methaphorically, and I think they were in some of the cases you mentioned. And i agree wit eversio, its only eight people who's words I believe were taken slightly taken out of context.
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Re: 'Everyone' believes in an Intelligent Creator .

Dave, if all you are doing is trying to convert atheists or make them feel their life is wrong, then please stop now and do not engage in that. I am a Christian, I am attending a Nazarene University next fall for college, and I know that I do not talk to others about God unless they wish to be talked with about it. Granted I do not believe that being an Atheist is the right thing, but that's me; even though I don't favor their religious view, I'm not the one who is supposed to go running up to them saying "You need to know God or you'll burn in hell." If someone came up to you and said that(keep in mind if you were an atheist) would you want to listen to what they have to say? No. A person has to want to find God on their own first, then you can start helping them with it. You cannot force someone to see something that they do not wish to see, they must see it on their own.

Now, I understand you probably have the best of intentions, but with such a vast difference in religious belief on this forum, coming here and saying such a thing is a bit out of line.
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Re: 'Everyone' believes in an Intelligent Creator .

Yeah, pretty accurate considering we're given the complete context of the quotes.
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Re: 'Everyone' believes in an Intelligent Creator .

Dave, we admire your commitment to God. Several of us here including myself are Christians, but AF is not the place for religion. As you can see it only results in a shitfight. As a Christian I feel I should be tolerant of others, and so I am, which is why we are not too impressed with the blatant bigotry displayed by you, and you only end up giving the rest of us a bad name and getting people on our case.

Secondly, stop starting every post with RESPONSE because we ARE NOT FUCKING STUPID, WE KNOW THAT YOU ARE RESPONDING TO OUR POST FOR CRYING OUT LOUD.

I'm locking this now, and going to sit back and listen to some rock music.
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