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Old 03-02-2004, 03:42 PM
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looking for mp3 CD player

I am going to get this stuff but I am having a hell of a time trying to find a mp3 CD player that meats my needs.

what i need in CD player is

plays mp3 and displays the MP3 text info
CD signal-to-noise ratio 100 db
front, rear, (sub woofer would be nice) preamp outputs of 4-volt or more
detachable faceplate
highs, mids, and lows EQ

what else i am going to get is

Audiobahn A4004T 4 Channel Amp
Class A/B MOSFET Power Amplifier
4x50 Watts RMS
2x400 Watts Max Power
2Ω Stable Stereo
Non-Requlated Power Supply
Full MOSFET Circuitry
Double Sided Circuit Board
Air Induction Fan Cooled
RCA (Low Level) & Speaker (Hi Level) Inputs
RCA Outputs
Variable Hi Pass Crossover : 50Hz to 750Hz
Variable Low Pass Crossover : 50Hz to 120Hz
Variable Subsonic Filter : 20Hz to 50Hz
Signal To Noise Ratio : > 100dB
18dB Bass Boost
T.H.D. : 0.02%
2/3/4/5/6 Channel Operation
Soft Start Circuitry
20A x 2 Fuses
Dimensions : 11-1/16"W x 1-7/8"H x 9-1/8"D
White Cloth Handling Gloves
Audiobahn Window Sticker
Frequency Response : 10Hz - 40KHz (+/- 1dB)
3-way Protection Circuitry: Thermal, Short Circuit and Overload; Cooling Fan
Cobalt Blue Illumination
High gloss Chrome Plated Finish
Nickel Plated Block Terminals
4Ω Stereo : 50x4
2Ω Stereo : 100x4
4Ω Mono : 200x2

and

Pair of 6.5" 3-Way Speakers
100W RMS Power Handling
200W Max Power Handling
Frequency Response: 50Hz - 20kHz
Sensitivity: 94dB
Chrome Plated Basket
18 Oz. Magnet
Mounting Depth: 2-1/4"
Audiobahn Window Sticker
Swivel Tweeters
Removable Tweeter for Remote Mounting
Black Carbon Injection Cone
Butyl Rubber Surround
2-Layer Hi-Temp ASV Voice Coil
4Ω Operation
Polyswitch Tweeter Protection Circuit
Complete w/Grills And Hardware
Flush & Surface Tweeter Mounts

I have a 10" pyramd sud i found for free going to use it for a bit tell I get a new Audiobahn 10" sub
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Old 03-02-2004, 04:19 PM
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Re: looking for mp3 CD player

Well for one, stop looking at Audiobahn. Any company who's primary objective is to slap as much bling onto a product as humanly possible is not a company you want to buy anything from. Their amps are decent, and I've heard the AlumQ subs have a tiny shred of sound quality, other than that you don't want to go anywhere near them.

Second, signal to noise ratio means nothing. Until all headunit manufacturers are forced to test and rate their products in the same way on the same scale, nearly every number they publish is completely useless. You can go from a Pioneer with 94dB S/N to a Sony with 102dB S/N and hear a noticable degredation in sound quality with the Sony, the numbers mean nothing.

For a cd player, Pioneer and Alpine both seem to fit nicely, what is your budget? You can do better than Audiobahn for the amp, but it should be decent. I highly recommend not getting the Audiobahn speakers or sub, look elsewhere. Search a little on here and I'm sure you'll find many suggestions for quality products.
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Re: looking for mp3 CD player

Check your local high end audio dealer if they can't help ya they suck
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you are wanting two different things from the same head unit. MP3 is LOW quality, 4V preouts is a higher quality thing. S/N for CD p;ayers is strictly a function of bits in the D/A converter. Each bit represents a doubling of voltage, which corresponds to 6 dB. So a 16 bit system is capable of 16 X 6 or 96 dB, 18 bit systems are 18 X 6 or 108 dB. But since normal CD's are recorded in 16 bit format, not much use in going above that. I don't know how popular the detachable face plates are anymore.
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Re: Re: looking for mp3 CD player

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Well for one, stop looking at Audiobahn. Any company who's primary objective is to slap as much bling onto a product as humanly possible is not a company you want to buy anything from. Their amps are decent, and I've heard the Flame Q subs have a tiny shred of sound quality, other than that you don't want to go anywhere near them.

Second, signal to noise ratio means nothing. Until all headunit manufacturers are forced to test and rate their products in the same way on the same scale, nearly every number they publish is completely useless. You can go from a Pioneer with 94dB S/N to a Sony with 102dB S/N and hear a noticable degredation in sound quality with the Sony, the numbers mean nothing.

For a cd player, Pioneer and Alpine both seem to fit nicely, what is your budget? You can do better than Audiobahn for the amp, but it should be decent. I highly recommend not getting the Audiobahn speakers or sub, look elsewhere. Search a little on here and I'm sure you'll find many suggestions for quality products.
my budget is about about $200 for amp and speakers (not sub)
I am just looking for some thing that sounds good for in a small truck
and would like for the amp and speakers to be for the same brand.
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and would like for the amp and speakers to be for the same brand.

Any particular reason why?
You can get something much better if you pick and choose the best of each category instead of sticking to one brand. Companies are generally good in one area or another, or they're average in all categories. No company is the best in everything, and if you go with one company for your entire system you will most likely have paid way too much for only a semi-decent sounding system. If I were to go with one company for everything, it would be JL (except for headunit) or Alpine, no other brand would even enter my mind. However, if I could pick and choose brands I wouldn't get anything by either company except for possibly an Alpine headunit.
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Re: Re: Re: Re: looking for mp3 CD player

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Any particular reason why?
just because I have all ways wanted it to be like that.
I am not dead set on it though.

after some real research I am looking at a Xtant 403A 3 Channel Amplifier

and a Alpine or Kenwood headunit maybe

but I have time tell I get it so I am not in to much of a hurry
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Re: looking for mp3 CD player

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I am going to get this stuff but I am having a hell of a time trying to find a mp3 CD player that meats my needs.

what i need in CD player is

plays mp3 and displays the MP3 text info
CD signal-to-noise ratio 100 db
front, rear, (sub woofer would be nice) preamp outputs of 4-volt or more
detachable faceplate
highs, mids, and lows EQ

what else i am going to get is

Audiobahn A4004T 4 Channel Amp
Class A/B MOSFET Power Amplifier
4x50 Watts RMS
2x400 Watts Max Power
2Ω Stable Stereo
Non-Requlated Power Supply
Full MOSFET Circuitry
Double Sided Circuit Board
Air Induction Fan Cooled
RCA (Low Level) & Speaker (Hi Level) Inputs
RCA Outputs
Variable Hi Pass Crossover : 50Hz to 750Hz
Variable Low Pass Crossover : 50Hz to 120Hz
Variable Subsonic Filter : 20Hz to 50Hz
Signal To Noise Ratio : > 100dB
18dB Bass Boost
T.H.D. : 0.02%
2/3/4/5/6 Channel Operation
Soft Start Circuitry
20A x 2 Fuses
Dimensions : 11-1/16"W x 1-7/8"H x 9-1/8"D
White Cloth Handling Gloves
Audiobahn Window Sticker
Frequency Response : 10Hz - 40KHz (+/- 1dB)
3-way Protection Circuitry: Thermal, Short Circuit and Overload; Cooling Fan
Cobalt Blue Illumination
High gloss Chrome Plated Finish
Nickel Plated Block Terminals
4Ω Stereo : 50x4
2Ω Stereo : 100x4
4Ω Mono : 200x2

and

Pair of 6.5" 3-Way Speakers
100W RMS Power Handling
200W Max Power Handling
Frequency Response: 50Hz - 20kHz
Sensitivity: 94dB
Chrome Plated Basket
18 Oz. Magnet
Mounting Depth: 2-1/4"
Audiobahn Window Sticker
Swivel Tweeters
Removable Tweeter for Remote Mounting
Black Carbon Injection Cone
Butyl Rubber Surround
2-Layer Hi-Temp ASV Voice Coil
4Ω Operation
Polyswitch Tweeter Protection Circuit
Complete w/Grills And Hardware
Flush & Surface Tweeter Mounts

I have a 10" pyramd sud i found for free going to use it for a bit tell I get a new Audiobahn 10" sub
You are contradicting yourself here. Anyway, I have had very good luck selling the Pioneer Premier and the higher end JVC items. Obviously you like eye candy and want to sacrifice sound quality (picking Audioblah). I'd give you JVC pics but they are updating their site.

Personally, I would find DEI audio stuff. If you haven't heard it, you gotta do it. If you are close to central Ohio, I'd let you play with my demo car! www.directed.com
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Re: looking for mp3 CD player

Hey I'm in central ohio. Grove City. Where you at?
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Re: looking for mp3 CD player

i am glad to read that no one here likes the flashy crap that audiobahn sells. in so cali it gets pushed big time since the owner has brothers with shops that discount the sh*t out of it to get it in cars...too bad even huge discounts can't make up for the crap quality.
but i digress, the kenwood mp3 decks are very good, try to stick with excelon if you can or go with alpine, they are very easy to navigate discs with many files and folders!
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I am not going to go with audiobahn at all now sense I have don a lot of looking at then and now see that they are shit think you all
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Hey I'm in central ohio. Grove City. Where you at?
I'm in a small town called Bucyrus. I am about an hour north of Columbus. If you ever go north for Cedar Point or the Lakes, hit me up. I'll let you play with my system. That's how I demo stuff. It's worthless going into a store and listening to a sound board. Things sound so much better in a car. People don't think so until they hear my ride. The funny thing is that I have very little money or design into it. I just made sure to get what I wanted and what would work in the vehicle.
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I am not going to go with audiobahn at all now sense I have don a lot of looking at then and now see that they are shit think you all
Yep, I'm glad that you are thinking otherwise. I mean, they are better than the real cheap crap like SoundStorm, Jensen, and the like but they are no where near to Directed Audio. You really should check them out. DEI has even came out with a brand new line called Xtreme. I tell you what, they pack a serious punch for very little $$$. I sell a 500watt Mono sub amp all day long for $199. It's even got a built in crossover and all kinds of controls to tailor the music to your needs. It says that it only does 250rms @ 2 ohm but it has to be much more than that. I mean it will slap the snot out of HUGE subs. I am very impressed.

Back when I was looking for a real good line to sell I had tried about everything out there. From Visionik, Audiobahn, Ample Audio just to name a few. None of them really had me. They didn't offer a real good complete system. At first I liked Ample Audio but they change their line and it went down. So, I liked the eye candy of Audiobahn but I soon found out that's about all it was. Yes, you could buy the real high end stuff and it would be OK but it was nothing compared to DEI's CompX subs and 750d or 1500d amps. I then began to notice that Audiobahn had quality issues. Not all of the stuff performed the same. Warranties were a nightmare. Then I unloaded a huge amount of $$ on DEI stuff and never looked back since.
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so where can I look at some DEI stuff online?
I seam not to be abel to find it dos it just stand for some thing?
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so where can I look at some DEI stuff online?
I seam not to be abel to find it dos it just stand for some thing?
DEI stands for Directed Electronics Inc.. It is the same company that owns Viper, Clifford, Orion, PPI, and many more to name a few. You should be able to find any of this stuff. Go to www.directed.com and click onto Directed Audio then you can see their stuff. Then, copy a model number like 1500d for their true 1500 watt amplifier. The Xtreme line will be hard to find. So, you'll have to settle for this http://directed.com/coms.asp and if there is something you are looking for, I could give you a price. I will tell you that I only take payments via Paypal or money orders so you might want to find some one with a website that's a little more flexible. Hope that helps
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