Turbo Vs Supercharger

[Sargento69]

My Question Is What Is Better For A B16 A Superchager Or A Turbo Kit???

[Bilson8tor]

thats a matter of preference what is this car going to be a daily driver or u going to use for racing only?

[Sargento69]

racing only!!

[YZ125rider21]

turbo always better, does not take away power like the super charger does...daily driven you can always go with a super charger but you might regret getting it when you lose quick to a turbo car...lol

[Sargento69]

ok thanks for the info ok guys

[YZ125rider21]

no problem

[91civichatch2571]

Originally Posted by Americanfeagle03

turbo always better, does not take away power like the super charger does...daily driven you can always go with a super charger but you might regret getting it when you lose quick to a turbo car...lol

How exactly does a supercharger take away power?

[doug294]

It's belt driven. It takes power to spin the belt.

[ahzab33]

Originally Posted by 91civichatch2571

How exactly does a supercharger take away power?

Superchargers are classified as positive displacement components, i.e. it takes engine power to operate them. Its kinda like your A/C, power steering, etc. The more the engine revs, the more power available for the supercharger.

Argument for and against superchargers: Superchargers are capable of providing power where small displacement Honda engines need it most; down low. Because they are powered by the engine's powertrain, it spools up right away and provides good consistent throttle response. Because it is powered by the engine's powertrain, it is also limited by the amount of horsepower the engine can produce.

Argument for and against turbos: Turbochargers are powered by exhaust gases. It takes wasted energy and uses it create momentum to spool up the turbo. Whether your car is 130 HP or 300 HP w/o the turbo, if the car can produce exhaust then it can power the turbo. I tend to call the turbo "The Great Equalizer". The turbo is only limited by how much horsepower the bottom end can handle before buckling. The main downside to turbos is that they take time to spool up. The bigger the turbo, the longer it will take. Turbos are more efficient for mid-high rpm hp & torque.

Both systems create heat and must be monitored carefully for detonation. So, basically, what it comes down to is where do you want the power most, down low, or up high, (i.e. fast launch or superior overall momentum all the way to the redline)?

[ahzab33]

Oh yeah,

Since you have a B16 which is a VTEC motor, I am inclided to recommend the supercharger to complement the high horsepower VTEC system with good low-end grunt. However, if you had a non-VTEC engine like a B18B LS motor, I would recommend a turbo to complement the B18B's good low-end torque with high horsepower momentum

[90civicracer]

I tend to agree...with the supercharger you could have the low end power and not have to wait for a turbo to spool up.

[Jay eS Iye]

its all preference, take the Old One from ENDYN, he has a supercharged Si that has like 480 HP (of course no one else can get the SC for now, but eventually )

[optimuscivic]

alot of people talk about superchargers for b16s in EFs but i hardly ever seen any of these setups.

i see so many b16 turbo setups. must be for a reason.

[civicHBsi91]

Originally Posted by optimuscivic

i see so many b16 turbo setups. must be for a reason.

yea b16's are cheap and everyone wants a turbo, i dont agree with turbo b16's unless they are fully built, their compression is too high and any b16 we get for an ef obd0...im sure had seen its share of lead foot drivers and vtec wompers and im sure they are beat in some how some way and couldent hold much boost without failure

if you have a b16 and want to go forced induction i would say supercharger or nitrous but why not just go all motor if you already have a high compression high revving motor?

[91civicDXdude]

this taken from homemadeturbo.com forums.....

1991 Honda Crx SI
Turbo B16a w/ ITR Pistons (stock/stock)
ITR Intake manifold
ITR Cams
JG Cam Gears
Custom Turbo setup running 14psi
T3 .60/.63
2.5DP w/ 3 exhaust / 2.5 charge pipes
Custom Coach IC
RPS Turbo Clutch
Hondata

277whp / 211tq

thats pretty impressive if you ask me.